What happens when you’re trying to make a new home abroad—but your emotions still speak in the language of home?

In this heartfelt episode, we sit down with Angela Utomo, an Indonesian psychologist and lecturer at Victoria University in Melbourne, who shares her unique perspective on navigating mental health, identity, and belonging as a migrant. Drawing from over 15 years of experience in Australia, Angela reflects on what it means to stay rooted in your cultural identity while building a new life elsewhere.

We explore the emotional weight of language in therapy, the hidden stigma still surrounding mental health in Indonesian communities, and the unspoken pressures that often come with studying or working overseas. Angela also opens up about how faith, community, and small everyday actions can ground us through the uncertainties of life abroad.

Whether you’re an international student, a first-time migrant, or someone supporting others through change, this episode reminds us that it's okay to ask for help—and that healing can begin in the words closest to our hearts.