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The Profit or Pivot Podcast
Matan Hazanov
31 episodes
2 weeks ago
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My Partnership with Waka Flocka Flame, The Business Behind Cultural Influence
The Profit or Pivot Podcast
1 hour
2 weeks ago
My Partnership with Waka Flocka Flame, The Business Behind Cultural Influence
Max Abergel signed one of the most influential rappers in the world without an intro, a résumé, or permission. He literally slipped past security and walked into a green room. That moment led to a long-term partnership with Waka Flocka Flame, an artist with diamond-certified records, collaborations with Nicki Minaj and Drake, and a brand that stretches far beyond music into business, philanthropy, and politics. But this episode isn’t about celebrity. It’s about the operators behind the scenes, the people who turn influence into a business. And Max didn’t come from music. He came from tech. That initial pitch in the green room turned into an 11-year partnership spanning: Touring and brand deals Business operations and management Investments and exits Building businesses around a personal brand without diluting it Waka Flocka Flame isn’t just a rapper, he’s a cultural force.Platinum records. Global tours. One of the defining voices of modern trap music. And someone who understood early that brand > product. We get into: The wild story of how Max met Waka and why it worked How to turn proximity into partnership (without being transactional) Why brand affinity matters more than follower count The difference between selling hours vs. building leverage Lessons from working with one of the biggest artists in the world Why authenticity compounds over time What “escaping the matrix” actually looks like in real life Why most people miss opportunities that are right in front of them Why Wocka endorsed Trump for President before it was cool If you’re a founder, creator, or operator trying to build something that lasts, this episode is a real-world lesson in how relationships become platforms.
The Profit or Pivot Podcast
VC & Startup Interviews