In this conversation, the speaker discusses the complexities of growth in high-pressure environments, emphasizing that growth does not have to be chaotic. They explore the fear that often drives decision-making in leadership roles, particularly the fear of failure and the need to say yes to everything. The discussion highlights the importance of navigating chaos and finding a different path in leadership.

takeaways

• growth doesn't have to be chaotic.
• this podcast led me to explore the idea publicly.
• you're constantly disconnected in high growth environments.
• operating from a place of fear.
• fear things won't get done.
• fear that you might get fired if you say no.
• it felt like control in the moment, but it was fear.
• rooted in chaos.
• this was really the norm in how leaders were operating.
• how they've chosen a different path.