My guest today is Nathaniel Hefferman. Nat and I share a love of playing in bands, of embracing change and taking chances and getting past perfectionism to find the fun in creating stuff and putting it out there for others to enjoy. We swap musical origin stories, theorize about instrument personalities, and talk about the bliss of being out of our heads and deep in the zone when improvising. And finally, Nat shares a song from a VERY creative audiovisual project he made from 0 to 100 in a single weekend, involving him playing 10 different instruments in 10 different outfits while his wife was out, because this is the kind of joyful mischief that makes brass band players tick.