What if safer work doesn’t start with more rules, but with better questions? We sit down with a former lawyer turned forklift driver and head of safety to unpack why people, not paperwork, are the engine of reliable performance. From high-vis yards to high-stakes courtrooms, we explore how respect, curiosity, and clear thinking outperform punishment and performative compliance. We talk through the everyday tension between systems and human judgment: when to rely on engineering controls, how ...