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The Revenue Formula
Toni Hohlbein & Raul Porojan
245 episodes
1 week ago
This podcast is about scaling tech startups. Hosted by Toni Hohlbein & Raul Porojan, together they look at the full funnel. With a combined 20 years of experience in B2B SaaS and 3 exits, they discuss growing pains, challenges and opportunities they’ve faced. Whether you're working in RevOps, sales, operations, finance or marketing - if you care about revenue, you'll care about this podcast. If there’s one thing they hate, it’s talk. We know, it’s a bit of an oxymoron. But execution and focus is the key - that’s why each episode is designed to give 1-2 very concrete takeaways.
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This podcast is about scaling tech startups. Hosted by Toni Hohlbein & Raul Porojan, together they look at the full funnel. With a combined 20 years of experience in B2B SaaS and 3 exits, they discuss growing pains, challenges and opportunities they’ve faced. Whether you're working in RevOps, sales, operations, finance or marketing - if you care about revenue, you'll care about this podcast. If there’s one thing they hate, it’s talk. We know, it’s a bit of an oxymoron. But execution and focus is the key - that’s why each episode is designed to give 1-2 very concrete takeaways.
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Business
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Why most AI in your GTM is BS
The Revenue Formula
50 minutes
3 weeks ago
Why most AI in your GTM is BS

AI in go-to-market is mostly bullshit.


In this episode, Toni talks with Koen Stam, a senior sales leader at Personio and creator of GTMOS. They break down where AI is actually helping in sales, marketing, and customer success, and where it’s falling apart.

They talk about why “AI SDRs” don’t live up to the pitch, why outbound emails generated by AI are useless without context, and why most teams don’t have the data or workflows to make AI perform. Koen shares how he uses AI at Personio for tasks like research, call prep, and churn prediction, and why the fundamentals still matter more than hype.

Visit Personio: https://www.personio.com/
Read Koen's Substack: https://koenstam.substack.com/
Learn more about Attive: attive.ai

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:04) - The Importance of Context in AI
  • (07:14) - Challenges in AI Implementation
  • (10:47) - AI and SEO
  • (14:56) - AI in Sales and SDRs
  • (23:06) - Proactive AI Assistance
  • (25:43) - Balancing Automation and Relevance
  • (28:10) - AI in Sales and Call Coaching
  • (31:35) - The Importance of Practical AI Applications
  • (41:28) - Proactive Churn Prediction with AI
  • (48:05) - Wrapping up

The Revenue Formula
This podcast is about scaling tech startups. Hosted by Toni Hohlbein & Raul Porojan, together they look at the full funnel. With a combined 20 years of experience in B2B SaaS and 3 exits, they discuss growing pains, challenges and opportunities they’ve faced. Whether you're working in RevOps, sales, operations, finance or marketing - if you care about revenue, you'll care about this podcast. If there’s one thing they hate, it’s talk. We know, it’s a bit of an oxymoron. But execution and focus is the key - that’s why each episode is designed to give 1-2 very concrete takeaways.