Podcast interview by Geraldine Masso, communication consultant for Rikolto, and Abdulahi Aliyu, coordinator of Rikolto´s global cocoa programme.

In this second episode, Abdulahi explains the concept of Living Income in the cocoa value chain and the complex factors that need to be in place to produce a chocolate bar that is delicious and good for the people and the planet. Abdulahi is based in Ghana, a major cocoa producer country with 70% of global cocoa production sourced together from Côte d’Ivoire. Geraldine is from Honduras, a country with the second-largest cocoa production in Central America. It is also internationally recognised as having one of the best beans in the world. So, let's listen to both, born in two cocoa-producing countries on opposite sides of the globe.

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