pecial Episode — Recorded live at the Oppenheimer Research Conference 2025.How do we build conservation models that work for both people and nature?In this eye-opening conversation, Lessah Mandoloma (Oxford) and Katie Mackenzie (Jamma Conservation & Communities) unpack the principles of human-centred conservation—a framework that challenges siloed thinking, brings communities into decision-making, and addresses the real trade-offs that shape conservation outcomes. They explore:• Why conservation must start with honest conversations about power, rights, and benefits• How to break silos between health, climate, food systems and biodiversity• Why communities must be treated as partners, not passive beneficiaries• The importance of co-defining goals and returning research findings to communities A hopeful and practical roadmap for conservation that recognises humanity as part of nature—not outside of it.