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The Six Stages Framework: Leading with Equity and Empathy
Dr Shungu Hilda M'gadzah
91 episodes
6 days ago
This podcast explores our understanding and ability to engage and deal with biases, inequity and racism. Offering reflections on everyday psychology and explores the impact of discrimination and racism on different sectors of the community from schools to businesses and Universities Exploring challenges faced by individuals and organisation and offering ideas, support and strategies for equity and inclusion. The Six Stages Framework is an intersectional tool used to assess where individuals and organisations are in their journey and support them to grow in their understanding and actions.
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This podcast explores our understanding and ability to engage and deal with biases, inequity and racism. Offering reflections on everyday psychology and explores the impact of discrimination and racism on different sectors of the community from schools to businesses and Universities Exploring challenges faced by individuals and organisation and offering ideas, support and strategies for equity and inclusion. The Six Stages Framework is an intersectional tool used to assess where individuals and organisations are in their journey and support them to grow in their understanding and actions.
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Self-Improvement
Education
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šŸ“¢ Becoming Less and Less: A 12-Step Journey to Inclusion
The Six Stages Framework: Leading with Equity and Empathy
16 minutes 33 seconds
2 months ago
šŸ“¢ Becoming Less and Less: A 12-Step Journey to Inclusion

What if unlearning prejudice—racism, sexism, homophobia—was treated less like a test to pass and more like a recovery journey?

That’s the heart of Becoming Less and Less, a framework I’ve developed through Inclusive Psychologists Ltd., inspired by the 12-step recovery structure and grounded in the Six Stages Framework (SSF).

This approach invites us to move beyond perfectionism and shame by asking one powerful daily question:
ā€œWhat am I becoming less and less of?ā€

Not overnight. Not performatively. But slowly. Honestly.
With sustained effort, accountability, and reflection.

The idea is brought to life in our new podcast episode, Conversations Around the Dinner Table, which draws on the real-life story of Robbie Mullen—former neo-Nazi turned informant—as portrayed in ITV’s The Walk-In. When asked in court if he was still a racist, he replied simply:

ā€œLess so.ā€

That response stays with me.

Because it reminds us: progress is possible—even for those stuck at Stage -1 or -2 of the SSF.
But it doesn't happen by accident. It happens through daily commitment, support, and the courage to stay in difficult conversations.

šŸŒ€ This isn’t about making excuses.
It’s about telling the truth: change takes time.
And we all have a role to play in helping one another grow.

✨ Explore the guide.
šŸŽ§ Listen to the podcast.
šŸ” Share with someone starting their journey.

Let’s make space for imperfection—and keep becoming less and less of the problem, and more and more of the solution.

šŸŽ§ Listen to the 5 minute podcast: Conversations Around the Dinner Table

YouTube

https://youtu.be/2kye12iztVM


TikTok video

https://www.tiktok.com/@sixstagesframework/video/7569714634421292291?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7541368627523470870


šŸŽ§ Listen to the 16 minute podcast: Becoming Less and Less: 12 Step Journey to Inclusion

YouTube

https://youtu.be/_evHppiHclc

The 12 Steps: Your Reflection Guide

The following 12 steps are not a checklist for perfection. They are a reflection guide for those committed to the ongoing journey of growth, one step at a time.

1. I acknowledge that I have internalized bias and prejudice.

2. I commit to becoming less and less of a racist, sexist, homophobe, ableist, or discriminator.

3. I listen to voices I’ve ignored or silenced.

4. I reflect on the impact of my words and actions.

5. I accept discomfort as part of growth.

6. I notice when I want to shut down or walk away.

7. I speak up when I hear harm—even when it’s uncomfortable.

8. I surround myself with people and spaces that challenge me to grow.

9. I apologize when I get it wrong—and learn from it.

10. I support others on their journey without expecting perfection.

11. I understand this is lifelong work.

12. I engage in a daily check-in, asking myself: What am I becoming less and less of, and what am I becoming more and more of?

Conclusion: Your First Step Is Today

Meaningful change doesn't come from perfect performance, but from consistent practice. By reframing the work of unlearning bias as a recovery journey, we are freed from the paralysis of perfectionism and empowered to take small, meaningful steps every day. The goal is not a final destination but a continuous process of becoming better. So, the only question left to ask is the one that starts the journey: Today, what will you become less and less of?


And to be clear-this isn’t about making excuses for racism, sexism, or any form of harm.


It’s about recognising that deep change doesn’t happen overnight.


We don’t leap from denial to liberation in a day. We take small, consistent steps-and those steps matter.


This is aboutĀ doing the work, not avoiding it.


Because growth is possible, especially when it’s personal.


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The Six Stages Framework: Leading with Equity and Empathy
This podcast explores our understanding and ability to engage and deal with biases, inequity and racism. Offering reflections on everyday psychology and explores the impact of discrimination and racism on different sectors of the community from schools to businesses and Universities Exploring challenges faced by individuals and organisation and offering ideas, support and strategies for equity and inclusion. The Six Stages Framework is an intersectional tool used to assess where individuals and organisations are in their journey and support them to grow in their understanding and actions.