Ep. 19 If Part 1 opened our eyes to how the public system works… Part 2 shows how people are lawfully stepping outside of it. In this continuation of Waking Up to the System: Living by Natural Law, Claudine Jane explains why she never calls what she does “business,” “trade,” or “commerce.” Instead, she uses the word projects—because within Natural Law, projects operate in the private, not the public system A project is a fair energy exchange between living men and women. No corporate structure. No government jurisdiction. Just education, resources, and support offered privately to members who choose to participate. From plant-based remedies… to humanitarian outreach… to her traveling support van “Lotso,” Claudine shows how projects can uplift communities, protect autonomy, and remain 100% lawful through international covenants, laws, and treaties Key Takeaways:  how projects are structured how they stay compliant how they serve without entering the commercial system Why slow, intentional setup matters more than speed If you’ve ever wondered, “Okay, but how do we actually LIVE outside the system?” — this is where it all clicks. 🔹 Connect with Claudine Jane Instagram: @claudinejane13 Website: eyesofhumanity.org Website: warrioratlaw.org 🔹 Connect with Amanda + Kristy Follow Magic Mud Cacao on Instagram | Facebook Explore more via their Linktree About the Guest: Claudine Jane is a solo mum whose life and work are rooted in service, healing, and truth-telling. With a background spanning youth work, counselling, Reiki mastery, and mind–body–soul practice, she brings a grounded yet deeply intuitive presence to all she does. As a First Nations advocate, she stands for cultural respect, suveranty, and the protection of ancient wisdom. Her consultancy in international alternative jurisdictions bridges worlds — offering pathways for people and communities to reclaim self-determination and live in alignment with natural law.  For Claudine, this isn’t work — it’s a way of life. She walks her talk, speaks her passion, and meets every living woman, man and project with integrity, heart, and vision. Chapters: 0:00 – Introduction 0:32 – Who Is Claudine Jane? 1:20 – Why We Use the Word “Projects” (Not Business) 2:07 – Member Benefits vs. Selling Products 3:16 – International Covenants, Laws & Treaties Explained 5:16 – “Sovereign” vs. “Suveranty”: Words Matter 6:53 – Why “Sovereign Citizen” Gets People in Trouble 7:40 – Working With Zev from Warrior at Law 9:03 – Reverse Engineering for Protection 10:57 – The Power of a Slow Pace & Real Mentorship 12:02 – The Vision for Lotso (The Project Van) 13:46 – Community Support & Funding the Mission 17:17 – Lotso’s First Trip: Service in Action 17:32 – Purpose, Mission & Legacy in the Private 18:54 – Overcoming Fear of the Private System 19:52 – Acting From Knowing, Not Urgency 20:24 – Last Words from Amanda + Kristy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices