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The Story Selling Podcast
Rob
82 episodes
4 days ago
Learn how to write stories that sell and become the written voice of a business you love.
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Learn how to write stories that sell and become the written voice of a business you love.
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Marketing
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67 Processes for Pain-Free Copywriting! (feat. Konrad Sanders)
The Story Selling Podcast
51 minutes 55 seconds
2 years ago
67 Processes for Pain-Free Copywriting! (feat. Konrad Sanders)

Processes are foundational to any successful system. If you find your marketing communications are sporadic or inconsistent, that in part can be a failure of process. 

A good process not only frees up your own time, it also absolves your staff (or remote team) of responsibility when things go wrong. If they followed the process, then blame the process!

I created a prolific set of processes when I ran an AdWords agency, however I've never fully replicated this with copywriting. However today's guest, Konrad Sanders, very much has. Listen in as we discuss:

  • 03:28 Creation, analysis, implementation: optimizing, proofreading, checking, documenting.
  • 07:58 Started freelance journey with creative copywriting blog.
  • 10:35 Expertise in frameworks, methodologies, and processes fuel growth.
  • 14:38 Methodology and processes go hand in hand.
  • 17:29 Gemba Kaizen book inspired an Oopsie thread.
  • 21:59 "How is more important than why"
  • 24:25 Why and how differ in customer journey. Buying emotionally at first, then seeking tested methodology. Documentation for reassurance and improvement.
  • 28:20 Documenting processes helps agencies define their proposition.
  • 33:00 ChatGPT exploded, easy-to-use interface, collaborative AI.
  • 34:30 Technology is an essential tool for creativity.
  • 40:52 Using ChatGPT as research and validation tool.
  • 42:10 Spitting out transcripts, emails, social posts, starting point for editing.
  • 45:43 13 lenses: copy/content checklist of compelling, convincing, converting content. Goldfish lens prioritized, top of the spreadsheet.
  • 48:35 Eye-friendly design crucial for reader engagement.

Links mentioned:

Download the 13 Lenses eBook

Konrad's LinkedIn | website.

The Story Selling Podcast
Learn how to write stories that sell and become the written voice of a business you love.