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The Subtext
Daniel Lee and Trey Wilson
6 episodes
1 week ago
Not everything we are fits in a bio. The Subtext is where it spills out. We dive into the hidden dreams, quiet doubts, passion projects, and bold resets behind creative founders of rising startups, Gen Z leaders, execs, creators, artists, and builders. Hosted by Daniel Lee and Trey Wilson, it’s a raw, reflective space for the stories still unfolding - a time capsule of who we are underneath the surface and who we’re still becoming.
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Not everything we are fits in a bio. The Subtext is where it spills out. We dive into the hidden dreams, quiet doubts, passion projects, and bold resets behind creative founders of rising startups, Gen Z leaders, execs, creators, artists, and builders. Hosted by Daniel Lee and Trey Wilson, it’s a raw, reflective space for the stories still unfolding - a time capsule of who we are underneath the surface and who we’re still becoming.
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Cayden Ginting – Taxing Degeneracy Goes Viral – Co-Founder of Tally
The Subtext
46 minutes 32 seconds
2 months ago
Cayden Ginting – Taxing Degeneracy Goes Viral – Co-Founder of Tally

What happens when you bet on yourself so hard it borders on delusion, but it works?

In this episode of The Subtext, we sit down with Cayden Ginting: Gates Scholar, Columbia student, content creator (80k+), and the co-founder of Tally, Gen Z’s most unhinged habit tracker. We unpack how a joke accountability challenge with a friend turned into a real startup redefining behavioral growth for Gen Z, the wild viral launch that gained 650k+ impressions, 350+ DMs, and even a closed deal with an investor within 24 hours, and the deeply personal moments that shaped Cayden’s relentless drive.

From losing his mom during college apps to almost starring in his own goon-themed ad campaign, Cayden shares his raw subtext: freedom, obsession, and proving others wrong. If you’ve ever felt torn between ambition and burnout, or wondered how far you’d go to chase a vision, this one’s for you.

Topics include:

  • The story behind Tally’s viral launch video

  • How grief and grit pushed Cayden through Columbia

  • Why personal brand is the new moat

  • Deleted startup ideas (like a restroom chatbot for first dates)

  • What anchors him amidst the chaos

This episode is wild, inspiring, and full of unexpected left turns. Just like Cayden’s journey.

Follow Cayden:

Instagram- @caydenginting

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The Subtext
Not everything we are fits in a bio. The Subtext is where it spills out. We dive into the hidden dreams, quiet doubts, passion projects, and bold resets behind creative founders of rising startups, Gen Z leaders, execs, creators, artists, and builders. Hosted by Daniel Lee and Trey Wilson, it’s a raw, reflective space for the stories still unfolding - a time capsule of who we are underneath the surface and who we’re still becoming.