We’ve spent the last few episodes unpacking engagement—what it is, why it matters, and how it shows up in classrooms. This episode is the next step in that conversation.

Because while engagement matters, it’s not the finish line.

In this episode, Dan explores a tension many educators feel but struggle to name:
What happens when students are engaged… but the learning doesn’t stick?

Students can be busy, smiling, and compliant—and still not thinking deeply.

This conversation reframes engagement as a starting point, not the outcome, and makes the case for moving toward student ownership, decision-making, and cognitive engagement.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

• Why engagement became something we measure instead of something we use

• The difference between behavioral, emotional, and cognitive engagement

• How compliance can look like learning—even when it isn’t

• Why engagement alone can actually add noise and anxiety

• What engagement is really for in today’s classrooms

• The shift from teacher-driven engagement to student-driven ownership

• One simple question that can instantly deepen learning

Key takeaway:

• Engagement gets students ready.
• Ownership is where learning actually happens.

Try this tomorrow:

• Ask yourself (or your students):
  “What decisions were made today?”
• If the answer is “none,” you don’t need a new lesson—you need a better question.

What’s next:

The next episode continues this arc by digging into how to move from engagement to real ownership—without blowing up your curriculum or adding one more initiative.

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