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The Third Space with Naisi Chen
Naisi Chen
7 episodes
1 week ago
The 3rd Space is a podcast created by Kiwi Asians, for anyone navigating life between cultures in Aotearoa New Zealand. It explores what it means to build a “third culture” and how that shapes our personal lives, careers, and sense of belonging. Through honest conversations with leaders, creatives, and community voices, the podcast shares real experiences of work, identity, visibility, and growth. The 3rd Space is a place to reflect, connect, and feel seen while shaping your path in the world. Host: Naisi Chen Producer & Editor: Xian Zhang Music: Kaishandao – Kristen Ng Advisory: Sam Collins
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The 3rd Space is a podcast created by Kiwi Asians, for anyone navigating life between cultures in Aotearoa New Zealand. It explores what it means to build a “third culture” and how that shapes our personal lives, careers, and sense of belonging. Through honest conversations with leaders, creatives, and community voices, the podcast shares real experiences of work, identity, visibility, and growth. The 3rd Space is a place to reflect, connect, and feel seen while shaping your path in the world. Host: Naisi Chen Producer & Editor: Xian Zhang Music: Kaishandao – Kristen Ng Advisory: Sam Collins
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Finding Whakapapa at the Local Board Table — with Bobby Shen
The Third Space with Naisi Chen
33 minutes 57 seconds
2 months ago
Finding Whakapapa at the Local Board Table — with Bobby Shen

In this episode of The Third Space, we sit down with Bobby Shen — architect and former Mt Roskill local board member — to talk about what it means to serve the community while navigating life as a Kiwi Asian. From speaking Cantonese on the playground to shaping Auckland’s urban landscape, Bobby shares how learning te reo Māori and embracing tikanga have deepened his understanding of identity and belonging.

We talk about the surprising connections between Māori values like mana and whanaungatanga and Chinese cultural roots, and how those shared principles can guide the way we lead and live. It’s a conversation about building bridges, leading with authenticity, and finding a place where our cultures meet in Aotearoa.


The Third Space with Naisi Chen
The 3rd Space is a podcast created by Kiwi Asians, for anyone navigating life between cultures in Aotearoa New Zealand. It explores what it means to build a “third culture” and how that shapes our personal lives, careers, and sense of belonging. Through honest conversations with leaders, creatives, and community voices, the podcast shares real experiences of work, identity, visibility, and growth. The 3rd Space is a place to reflect, connect, and feel seen while shaping your path in the world. Host: Naisi Chen Producer & Editor: Xian Zhang Music: Kaishandao – Kristen Ng Advisory: Sam Collins