At every march and protest I've been to in Turkey, I've noticed there's always been a strong presence from the transgender community. It's maybe no surprise since they are constantly forced to fight for their rights, not only for equality but also just to be recognized and respected in public spaces.

To understand more about what life is like for trans people in Turkey, my guest this week is Arya Zencefil -- a trans activist and a fellow podcaster who hosts the show Trans Saatler, or 'Trans Hours'. We had an amazing discussion about how trans rights are fundamentally connected with feminism and other social justice movements, and Arya describes some of the shocking ways the government and some women still treat the trans community.

This is one of my favourite interviews so far, and a reminder that the fight for women's rights must include everyone.