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The Unexpected Lever
Vivun
53 episodes
1 month ago
The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.
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The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.
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Marketing
Business
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Value Is Earned, Not Explained with Em Daigle, OTTO-MATES
The Unexpected Lever
6 minutes
1 month ago
Value Is Earned, Not Explained with Em Daigle, OTTO-MATES

Most teams talk about value without ever earning the right to use that word.

In this episode of V5, Jarod Greene sits down with Em Daigle, Founder and Chief Automation Officer at OTTO-MATES, to discuss how to really build trust with buyers and how “value” has become a buzzword in sales, often used without any real connection to what customers actually care about.

Em explains why enablement misses the mark when it skips the human side of discovery, and shares how better questions (not just more of them) can completely change the trajectory of a deal. She also discusses where AI should step in and where it should step aside, especially when credibility is on the line.

If you're relying on process alone, you’re probably just presenting instead of truly selling.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • Why trust earns attention – Value isn’t real until your buyer believes you 
  • How to fix enablement – Teaching reps the buyer’s world is a game changer
  • Where AI fits in – Use it to free up time, not replace your connection


Things to listen for: 

(00:00) Introduction

(00:29) Why “value” talk falls flat in sales

(01:50) How to truly earn buyer trust

(02:58) Fixing enablement with more profound discovery

(03:44) Where AI helps and where it hurts


The Unexpected Lever
The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.