Anti-Israel propagandist Aaron Maté and host Israel Ellis go head-to-head. Maté, son of Holocaust survivor Gabor Maté, calls Israel a "Jewish supremacist state" and a "death cult," compares it to Nazi Germany, and declares he will "never condemn people who resist." He seems to be a true believer who means every word he says, but he's intellectually dishonest: He cherry-picks Israeli historians, sanitizes Palestinian violence, refuses to apply the "death cult" label to Hamas, and when asked about Queers for Palestine, suddenly isn't "up on gay laws in Ramallah." Ellis pushes back on Holocaust comparisons, challenges Maté's refusal to condemn October 7th. They clash over the Oslo Accords, ethnic cleansing, "From the River to the Sea," and whether Zionism fuels antisemitism. This is the conversation everyone's afraid to have.