Terrorist imagery, navigating sensitive content, and innovating the curation of online collections…with Dr Ali Fisher

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The War We See

Hirah Azhar

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Hosted by historian Hirah Azhar, this podcast explores the fascinating story of war imagery, and how it has shaped public perceptions of conflict. Drawing on conversations with a wide range of guests - including researchers, curators/archivists, photojournalists, artists, and filmmakers - this podcast moves across time and media, unearthing the stories behind the images that have defined our understanding of war. The War We See offers a critical, urgent, and thought-provoking lens on the images that continue to shape scholarship and society. New episodes released every other Wednesday.

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Terrorist imagery, navigating sensitive content, and innovating the curation of online collections…with Dr Ali Fisher

The War We See

1 hour 41 minutes 4 seconds

1 month ago

Terrorist imagery, navigating sensitive content, and innovating the curation of online collections…with Dr Ali Fisher

This week, I’m joined by Dr Ali Fisher from Human Cognition Ltd. and Università Cattolica in Milan. Ali’s work bridges strategic communications and data science to counter emerging threats in complex information environments, such as political disinformation campaigns, online child sexual abuse networks, and the exploitation of online platforms by terrorist groups. Ali is the creator of Mujahid Mind AI and the BlackLight data feed - tools that provide near real-time insights into Salafi-Jihadi exploitation of the Internet, which, combined with his decades’ long familiarity with the subject and his own training as a historian, mean he is uniquely placed to discuss this often-misunderstood genre of conflict imagery. In this conversation, Ali and I discuss a broad range of subjects such as deciphering Salafi-Jihadi visuals, researcher wellbeing, the important work of preserving visual content from Gaza, and his development of tools that can help curate, preserve, and decode online content.

Note: Due to a discussion of atrocity imagery in this conversation - mainly some examples of graphic violence that are briefly mentioned - listener discretion is advised.

Link to Mujahid Mind AI: https://www.mujahidmind.io

Some of Ali’s recent co-authored publications mentioned in the episode:

Decoding the Terrorist Mind, The European Institute for Counter Terrorism and Conflict Prevention (EICTP), July 2025: https://eictp.eu/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Final_Decoding-the-Terrorist-Mind-The-Role-of-AI-Powered-Tools.pdf

Gore and Violent Extremism: An Explorative Analysis of the Use of Gore Websites for Hosting and Sharing Extremist and Terrorist Content, VOX-Pol, 2025: https://voxpol.eu/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/DCUPN0751-Gore-Extremism-WEB-250704.pdf

Ali’s selected photographs:

Islamic State fighter on horseback at sunset: https://onlinejihad.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/pic5.jpg

Nsala of Wala in Congo looks at the severed hand and foot of his five-year old daughter. Photographed by John H. Harris in May 1904. Appears in Edmund Morel, King Leopold's rule in Africa, (1904) p. 145: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nsala_of_Wala_in_Congo_looks_at_the_severed_hand_and_foot_of_his_five-year_old_daughter,_1904.jpg