In this episode of Theology for the People, Nick talks with Dr. Drew Martin, professor of theology and church history at Covenant Theological Seminary. Drew shares about his pastoral journey, his transition to academia, and why he wrote his new book on Francis Grimké — an influential but often overlooked African American Presbyterian pastor, church leader, and early civil rights advocate.

They discuss Grimké’s life: born into slavery, educated at Princeton, and pastoring 15th Street Presbyterian Church in Washington, DC, for nearly 50 years. Drew explains Grimké’s passion for preaching the gospel and fighting racial prejudice, his wisdom in holding together faith and social action without confusing them, and what the church today can learn from Grimké’s example.

📖 Get Drew’s book: Francis Grimké on the Christian Life (Crossway’s Theologians on the Christian Life Series)

🔗 Connect with Drew at Covenant Theological Seminary.

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