Rob Giampietro — Rome Prize winner, MacDowell fellow and all around design mensch — and Craig discuss his new book 'Things Become Other Things,' his walking journeys across Japan, and his unique approach to publishing and community building. Supported by the gradual evolution of his walks into a literary and photographic endeavor, Craig discloses how his solo treks and companionship with mentors like John McBride have shaped his narrative style. He also delves into his innovative 'SPECIAL PROJECTS' membership program that funds his creative pursuits and offers a personal reflection on the transformative experiences of walking and connecting with people in varied landscapes. The conversation wraps up on the note of Craig's experimentation with bespoke digital spaces that foster community engagement beyond conventional platforms. Guest Links: • Rob Giampietro: https://linedandunlined.com/ • Rome Prize: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Prize • MacDowell: https://www.macdowell.org/ • Notion: https://www.notion.so/ Find Craig online at: https://craigmod.com And pick up a copy of "Things Become Other Things": • Amazon: https://amzn.to/3z1CjSt • Bookshop.org: https://bookshop.org/p/books/things-become-other-things-a-memoir-craig-mod/21707235?ean=9780593732540 • Apple Books: https://books.apple.com/us/book/things-become-other-things/id6618121918 • Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/things-become-other-things-craig-mod/1146138224?ean=9780593732540