In this second episode, host Michael Costello interviews world-famous researcher and best-selling author, Marcus Buckingham, about his book - Love and Work - revealing why love must come first at work and how to make this happen.

Most of us actually don’t know the real truth of what we love – what engages us and makes us thrive – and our workplaces, jobs, schools, even our parents, are focused instead on making us conform. In this fascinating episode, Marcus explores how to decode our own loves, turn them into their most powerful expression, and do the same for those we lead.

Tune in to explore the concept of love and work and find answers to questions such as: How can I find activities that I love at work? What is the central role of love in achieving sustainable excellence? What are ‘red threads’ and how can I recognise them?

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