This week we have Dana Anderson: computer scientist, Alan Turing Lover, and AI hater. Youve all told me i need to get an AI hater on, well here you go!!

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00:00:00 - Turing was trans? 

00:01:04 - intro to Dana 

00:06:13 - INTERVIEW START 

00:10:39 - we both love Aphex Twin (why current ai music sucks)

00:18:10 - Dana’s background

00:25:59 - the humans of RLHF

00:31:45 - cheese moves

00:33:32 - turing talk begins00:47:36 - turing is dead

00:55:44 - Turing invented computer music 00:57:31 - how to not go insane with math

00:58:13 -  data vs spock 

01:06:52 - Who killed Alan Turing?

01:18:45 - being in the room01:28:38 - decolonization 01:34:42 - nonmetaphoric decolonization

01:41:21 - we both hate dams

01:57:44 - the three poisons

02:10:20 - how to nonmetaphorically decolonize chatgpt 02:25:39 - our favorite Aphex Twin tracks02:27:28 - BUMP Bombe Women

02:27:41 - wrap up. Watch Drain The Hetch!