In this episode of This Week in Carbon, hosts Edward Smith and Rene Velasquez are joined by Robert Höglund, manager of the Milkywire Climate Transformation Fund, co-founder of CDR.fyi, and policy advisor on carbon removal (including SBTi and EU expert groups).Robert brings deep expertise from his NGO background to managing one of the most catalytic corporate climate funds, sharing candid insights on scaling impact across durable CDR, decarbonization, and nature protection.We discuss: • Robert’s journey: From Oxfam climate policy to co-founding CDR.fyi and leading Milkywire’s fund • Milkywire Climate Transformation Fund: $17M+ allocated across 60+ projects, catalytic pre-purchases, and internal carbon fees • 2025 CDR trends: VC slowdown, concentrated buyers (Microsoft dominance), and the gap between needed scale and financing reality • Corporate demand dynamics: Push for near-term operational net-zero, scope 1-2 incentives, and why long-term arguments fall flat with CFOs • Removals vs. reductions debate: Durable CDR for willful fossil continuation (e.g., aviation), cost-effectiveness of avoidance/nature, and balanced portfolios • SBTi net-zero draft critique: Steps forward on beyond-value-chain mitigation but delays and weakening of durable CDR requirements • EU 2040 target & policy signals: Massive potential demand via international credits, buyers club prospects, and risks of delayed supply • Outlook & incentives: Tough years ahead for durable CDR, the need for labels/claims restoration, and barriers that must fall to avoid lost momentum Essential listening for anyone shaping corporate climate strategy or tracking carbon removal markets—this episode cuts through the hype with pragmatic analysis and forward-looking views.