In this refreshing and eye-opening convo, KVJ sits down with powerhouse strategist and founder Janna Meyrowitz Turner to unpack what it really means to manage with care. From her early days building StyleHouse to launching her new venture, Antenna Up, Janna walks us through how caregiving and leadership aren’t opposites—they’re deeply connected.

They talk about burnout, invisible labor, DEI misfires, and how men and women can (and must) work together to fix broken systems at work. Plus, the two design the perfect ice cream flavor for leaders trying to balance power and compassion (spoiler: it’s minty, meaningful, and definitely cool to care).

If you've ever felt like managing people shouldn’t feel this hard, this one's for you.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Management as caregiving: why it’s a mindset shift, not just a skill set
• Burnout, bandwidth, and balancing emotional labor at work
• The sandwich generation of managers—why middle managers are stretched thin
• How our early life systems shape leadership behavior
• Why men and women need to solve workplace problems together
• DEI backlash and the danger of excluding cis het white men from the conversation
• Real talk about invisible labor, emotional tolls, and why it’s okay to name the tension
• Personal brand alignment: leading with authenticity and clarity
• Why humor, storytelling, and honesty are the unsung tools of good leadership

Learn more about Janna Turner | Antenna Up

Website: https://www.jannamturner.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jannaturner

Instagram: @jannamturner

Learn more about Antenna Up and Buoys Club via Sinistry Capital (note: Antenna Up launches publicly in Fall 2025)

Learn more about KVJ | Tough Day

Website: https://tough.day/

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kvonjan

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