Podcast series charting the #IPP prisoner scandal. Listen on #Acast #ApplePodcasts #Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
Today there are over 2,500 people trapped in British prisons on the now abolished indeterminate IPP (Imprisonment for Public Protection) sentence, many for minor crimes like stealing a mobile phone. None of them know when they are getting out, or whether their IPP sentence could mean life in prison. To date, 95 IPP serving prisoners, with a lack of certainty and losing hope, have taken their own lives. The IPP has been called a ‘stain on the British justice system’, ‘psychological torture’ and 'state sponsored torture'. But many people have never heard of it…
In this ‘tragically brilliant’ and hard hitting multi-part podcast series, the investigative reporter Sam Asumadu and Roddy Russell, whose brother Robert is serving an IPP sentence, are digging deep into the plight of prisoners serving IPPs, and their families, to find out what has gone wrong with this sentence and to shine a light into the dark corners of the IPP story.
Featuring contributions from prisoners serving IPP sentences, their families, campaigners, criminologists, psychologists, journalists, lawyers, retired judges, MPs and Peers.
Get in touch on X, Facebook and Instagram @Trapped_pod
Trapped Substack: https://trappedpodcast.substack.com/
If you want to do something, you can tell a friend to listen to this series: knowledge is power and the more who know, the harder it is for injustice to take place.
If you want to do something more active, you can write to your MP and tell them to raise questions about prisoners serving IPPs in parliament.
Search the hashtag #IPPScandal on social media for more info.
For more information about the Campaign for IPP Justice: visit UNGRIPP www.ungripp.com/ | @UNGRIPP and IPP Committee in Action www.ippcommitteeinaction.com/ | @ActionIpp | injustice_of_ipp
Reporters: Samantha Asumadu @SamanthaAsumadu | Roddy Russell @1roddyRussell
Executive Producer: Melissa FitzGerald @melissafitzg
Producer: Steve Langridge @SMLANGERS
Consultant: Hank Rossi
Ear Worm Productions for The Institute of Now
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Podcast series charting the #IPP prisoner scandal. Listen on #Acast #ApplePodcasts #Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
Today there are over 2,500 people trapped in British prisons on the now abolished indeterminate IPP (Imprisonment for Public Protection) sentence, many for minor crimes like stealing a mobile phone. None of them know when they are getting out, or whether their IPP sentence could mean life in prison. To date, 95 IPP serving prisoners, with a lack of certainty and losing hope, have taken their own lives. The IPP has been called a ‘stain on the British justice system’, ‘psychological torture’ and 'state sponsored torture'. But many people have never heard of it…
In this ‘tragically brilliant’ and hard hitting multi-part podcast series, the investigative reporter Sam Asumadu and Roddy Russell, whose brother Robert is serving an IPP sentence, are digging deep into the plight of prisoners serving IPPs, and their families, to find out what has gone wrong with this sentence and to shine a light into the dark corners of the IPP story.
Featuring contributions from prisoners serving IPP sentences, their families, campaigners, criminologists, psychologists, journalists, lawyers, retired judges, MPs and Peers.
Get in touch on X, Facebook and Instagram @Trapped_pod
Trapped Substack: https://trappedpodcast.substack.com/
If you want to do something, you can tell a friend to listen to this series: knowledge is power and the more who know, the harder it is for injustice to take place.
If you want to do something more active, you can write to your MP and tell them to raise questions about prisoners serving IPPs in parliament.
Search the hashtag #IPPScandal on social media for more info.
For more information about the Campaign for IPP Justice: visit UNGRIPP www.ungripp.com/ | @UNGRIPP and IPP Committee in Action www.ippcommitteeinaction.com/ | @ActionIpp | injustice_of_ipp
Reporters: Samantha Asumadu @SamanthaAsumadu | Roddy Russell @1roddyRussell
Executive Producer: Melissa FitzGerald @melissafitzg
Producer: Steve Langridge @SMLANGERS
Consultant: Hank Rossi
Ear Worm Productions for The Institute of Now
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
An update on Clara and Thomas’s story.
In this episode, we hear from Clara White, who updates us on her brother Thomas, who was sentenced in 2012 for the theft of a mobile phone. Thomas was given an IPP sentence with a two-year tariff and has now been imprisoned for over a decade. We last heard from them in our very first episode, ‘Ghost Prisoners’.
Clara has campaigned tirelessly for Thomas’s release and mental health treatment, collaborating with Bishop Mick Fleming of Church on the Street in Burnley. Together, they have fought to have Thomas moved from prison to a secure hospital. Clara’s faith and activism led Mick to call her an “accidental preacher,” and eventually, she began training for ordination.
In the summer of 2025, Clara finally receives the incredible news that Thomas will be moved to hospital: a moment of immense emotion and relief but which also brings new challenges. This is a familiar story for Roddy as his brother Robert makes his own journey from prison to a secure hospital facility.
Roddy also meets David Kirk-Beedon, a former prison chaplain, who discusses his first-hand experiences of the mental health decline that those serving IPP sentences face within the prison system, to whom, he says, the state has a ‘duty of care’.
In September 2025, Roddy attends Clara’s ordination as a minister at Church on the Street. We hear how Clara's faith has helped support her through the many dark moments she and her family have faced since Thomas’s IPP sentence was handed down.
Thomas’s transfer brings newfound hope: he experiences small freedoms like eating with real cutlery and sleeping with his door unlocked. Yet despite his move to a secure hospital, Thomas, like Robert Russell, is still serving an IPP sentence. We close with Bishop Mick’s invocation of Exodus ringing in our ears: “Let my people go.”
Contributors in order of appearance:
Pastor Clara White | https://www.cots-ministries.co.uk/team-members/
Bishop Mick Fleming | https://www.cots-ministries.co.uk/
David Kirk Beedon | author and former Prison Chaplain
Production Credits:
Presenter: Roddy Russell | @1roddyRussell
Executive Producer: Melissa FitzGerald | @Melissafitzg
Producer: Steve Langridge | @SMLANGERS
Consultant: Hank Rossi
Get in touch on X, TikTok, Facebook or Instagram | @Trapped_Pod
For more info about the IPP campaign: visit UNGRIPP | www.ungripp.com | @UNGRIPP | IPP Committee In Action @ActionIpp | injustice_of_ipp
An Ear Worm Production for the Institute of Now
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.