You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.
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You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.
In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric react to a wild sermon clip from fundamentalist pastor Phil Kidd going off on church members about tithing, pastor lifestyles, and “God‑robbing thieves.” The conversation uses the clip as a springboard to unpack how money, ministry, and guilt-based giving often get tangled together in modern church culture.
On this episode we talk about:
Why “if you question my spending, you’re a God‑robber” is such a manipulative framing
How young Travis used to automatically trust anything said from a pulpit—and what changed as an adult
The real tension in pastor salaries: compensating competence vs. hiding lifestyle excess behind spiritual language
Why nonprofit and church structures can quietly turn into big, expensive machines where only a tiny slice reaches the stated “cause”
A more honest view: church members do fund the pastor’s life, just like taxpayers fund government salaries
Why Travis prefers direct, quiet generosity to individuals over funneling everything through churches or large charities
Top 3 Takeaways
Guilt is a terrible financial advisor. “Give or you’re robbing God” and “you didn’t pay for my car” are emotional pressure tactics, not healthy teaching on generosity.
Paying pastors well is not the problem; lack of transparency is. The issue is not income itself but how it is justified, explained, and held accountable.
You can be generous without loving the institutional model. Supporting people and causes you believe in directly can often feel more aligned and impactful than blindly funding bloated structures.
Notable Quotes
“If you’re good at what you do, you should get paid well—pastors included—but don’t pretend the people in the seats aren’t footing the bill.”
“There’s an inherent tension in nonprofit work: to tackle big problems, you need highly skilled people, and highly skilled people are not cheap.”
“I’m not anti‑giving; I’m just not interested in giving to systems I don’t trust.”
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Travis Makes Money
You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.