On this episode, Alex & Anna interview Laila and Gabe of Running on Everything, the best friend dynamic duo, trained as jazz musicians who are currently putting out “high fi indie pop about honesty and making your dark feelings danceable.” We talk about the gender norms and expectations they felt growing up: for Laila fronting big bands and for Gabe through his time in ROTC, the anti-misogyny pop bangers they’e currently making, and the erasure of Asian women in the music industry. You’ll hear clips from two of their songs, one at the beginning of the episode and one at the end, so stick around! You can find their music everywhere by searching @RunningOnEverything.