This episode of “Two Poles (not so far) Apart” features Dr. Brandon Oberlin, an entrepreneur and scientist from Indiana University. The hosts and Dr. Oberlin discuss his groundbreaking work using immersive virtual reality to support addiction recovery. Listeners learn how Oberlin’s startup, RelateXR, lets people in recovery interact with future versions of themselves in VR—helping expand their motivation and time horizon for positive change. The conversation explores the journey from academic research to commercial innovation, the science and emotional impact behind personalized VR therapy, and the risks and rewards of launching something radically new