In this episode of Two Tokens Short, hosts Robert De La Rosa and Mitchell Newberger sit down with Glenn Gilmore, founder of Brick & Timber Collective, to unpack the comeback story of San Francisco real estate. From janitorial roots to multimillion-dollar redevelopment, Glenn shares how his team transforms historic brick-and-timber buildings into modern creative offices—and why boutique assets survived the storm.

They discuss interest rates, post-COVID urban recovery, lender takebacks, and how AI companies are revitalizing the city’s office demand. Glenn also reveals how his firm uses AI tools like Grok to draft, research, and speed up contracts—and what’s next for data-driven leasing and AI-assisted negotiations.

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