On this episode of Two Tokens Short — where creativity, technology, and culture meet, Robert and Mitchell sit down with Dr. Kunal Shah, founder & president of LiloTree. From Intel and PNNL to bootstrapping a materials company, Dr. Shah breaks down how his team built a nickel-free, cyanide-free surface finish for PCBs that makes solder joints tougher, greener, and cheaper—crucial for aerospace, defense, consumer electronics, and the emerging AI hardware stack. We get into reliability vs. legacy processes, SBIR/NSF funding, real-world cost savings on gold, adoption cycles at OEMs, and where AI fits today (marketing ops) vs. tomorrow (data-center hardware enabled by better materials). If you care about the leap from Moore’s Law to AI scale—and how manufacturing keeps up—this one’s for you.

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