This episode got a little spicy, and is a must listen for anyone who cares about climate change, geoengineering, or collaboration between natural and social scientists.

If you are confused, check out Cody's piece on geoengineering governance: https://blog.castac.org/2024/09/geoengineering-de-facto-environmental-governance-and-alternative-future-making/

References: Frank Biermann et al., “Solar Geoengineering: The Case for an International Non‐use Agreement,” WIREs Climate Change 13, no. 3 (January 17, 2022), https://doi.org/10.1002/wcc.754.

Gupta, Aarti, and Ina Möller. 2018. “De Facto Governance: How Authoritative Assessments Construct Climate Engineering as an Object of Governance.” Environmental Politics 28 (3): 480–501. doi:10.1080/09644016.2018.1452373.

Parson, E. A., Buck, H. J., Jinnah, S., Moreno-Cruz, J., & Nicholson, S. (2024). Toward an evidence-informed, responsible, and inclusive debate on solar geoengineering: A response to the proposed non-use agreement. WIREs Climate Change, e903. https://doi.org/10.1002/wcc.903