In this conversation Dr PMak and Michael Ford cover a wide range of topics, including the income potential in trades, global crises, the future of humanity, and the meaning of life. Michael shares insights on the importance of mastery, the impact of instant gratification on youth, and the significance of building communities and purpose. He also discusses the role of spirituality in his work and the value of perseverance.________________________________________________________________________About Patrick Makokoro Ph.D | Social Entrepreneur, Educational Researcher, Development Practitioner // I am an author, social entrepreneur, researcher, and development practitioner. My work focuses on creating sustainable solutions for social challenges. With a passion for positive change I am dedicated to making a meaningful impact on communities through innovative approaches and collaborative efforts. \\