Cardon Ellis hosts, Laura E. Welch and Brittany for a heartfelt discussion about feminism, motherhood, and the highly publicized scrutiny faced by the social media personality behind Ballerina Farm, Hannah, who is known for her large family and entrepreneurial success.The conversation starts with reflections on leadership, quoting Joseph Smith on how women in the church should lead by example rather than being led by worldly standards. Laura E. Welch stresses that “true” feminism should be about choice and empowerment supporting women whether they choose to focus on careers, motherhood, or both. She describes how the attacks on Ballerina Farm expose a narrow, sometimes intolerant strain within modern feminism that dismisses women who find fulfillment in more traditional roles.