Gilberto Valle: The Cannibal Cop

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We Saw the Devil: Crime & Political Analysis

We Saw the Devil

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We Saw the Devil is the podcast that refuses to separate murder from power, violence from policy, and crime from the systems that create it. Hosted by Robin, a veteran true crime researcher and political commentator, We Saw the Devil digs into the cases that expose the rot at the heart of American institutions. This isn't your typical true crime podcast. We don't just ask "who did it" — we ask who allowed it, who covered it up, who profited, and whose bodies are always the ones that end up in the ground. From serial killers protected by police to political violence disguised as law enforcement, from cold cases buried by corruption to state-sanctioned murder carried out in broad daylight — We Saw the Devil connects the dots between crime, politics, and power that other podcasts won't touch.

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Every case exists within systems — police departments, courts, prisons, immigration enforcement, political machines. We examine those systems.
Cases others won't cover. Police killings. Political assassinations. Government-adjacent violence. Crimes committed by the powerful against the powerless.
Deep research, not just Wikipedia. Court documents. FOIA requests. Original interviews. First-person sources. We do the work.
No cop worship. We respect victims and survivors. We don't lionize law enforcement or assume the official story is true.
Intersections of crime and politics. How true crime and political crime overlap: corruption, cover-ups, state violence, and the bodies left behind.

Episodes cover:

Cold cases and unsolved murders
Serial killers and the systems that enabled them
Police violence and law enforcement killings
Political crimes and government corruption
Missing and murdered Indigenous women (MMIW)
Immigration enforcement and border deaths
Wrongful convictions and prosecutorial misconduct
Historical true crime with modern political resonance
Breaking cases with political dimensions

Gilberto Valle: The Cannibal Cop | Fantasy or Felony?

We Saw the Devil: Crime & Political Analysis

48 minutes

1 month ago

Gilberto Valle: The Cannibal Cop | Fantasy or Felony?

In 2012, NYPD officer Gilberto Valle's wife made a horrifying discovery: thousands of online chats where her husband discussed kidnapping, torturing, cooking, and eating women...including her.

Valle was a member of Dark Fetish Net, a website for extreme sexual fantasies, where he shared detailed plans about cannibalizing real people he knew.

The FBI arrested Valle and charged him with conspiracy to commit kidnapping. The evidence was disturbing: graphic conversations about cooking women alive, over 100 unauthorized police database searches on potential victims, Google searches for "how to make chloroform," and real-world meetings with his targets.

But here's the twist: Valle never kidnapped anyone. Never attempted to. Never took any concrete steps beyond online conversations and Google searches. Valle claimed it was all fantasy role-play. Prosecutors argued it was a genuine conspiracy. After a twelve-day trial featuring gruesome evidence and disturbing testimony, the jury convicted him. Valle faced life in federal prison...

This case exploded into a national debate about thoughtcrime, free speech, and the limits of conspiracy law. Can you be imprisoned for disturbing fantasies? Where's the line between fantasy and criminal intent? Should online role-play be prosecutable as conspiracy?

Join Robin as she breaks it down.
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We Saw the Devil: Crime & Political Analysis

Every case exists within systems — police departments, courts, prisons, immigration enforcement, political machines. We examine those systems.
Cases others won't cover. Police killings. Political assassinations. Government-adjacent violence. Crimes committed by the powerful against the powerless.
Deep research, not just Wikipedia. Court documents. FOIA requests. Original interviews. First-person sources. We do the work.
No cop worship. We respect victims and survivors. We don't lionize law enforcement or assume the official story is true.
Intersections of crime and politics. How true crime and political crime overlap: corruption, cover-ups, state violence, and the bodies left behind.

Episodes cover:

Cold cases and unsolved murders
Serial killers and the systems that enabled them
Police violence and law enforcement killings
Political crimes and government corruption
Missing and murdered Indigenous women (MMIW)
Immigration enforcement and border deaths
Wrongful convictions and prosecutorial misconduct
Historical true crime with modern political resonance
Breaking cases with political dimensions