
Sean and David Jacobs invite Sean's 15-year-old son, Leo, to share his recollections of a recent visit to Anfield to watch Liverpool play. David talks about attending a reunion in Cape Town with relatives from their family line (their father's side) descended from enslaved Mozambicans. This leads to a broader discussion of their father's biography (they briefly introduced their mother's biography in episode 2), relatedly on coloured identity (Tyla's latest explanation), and the influence of loud right-wing politicians, including Donald Trump, Afriforum, and Gayton McKenzie.