Justin and Ava talk because Tristan and Bill from Copper State Forge are busy popping the best kettle corn in America for baseball fans and players at a baseball field. Ava could have used some liquor to help her not sound like such a dud/bitch, and made some bad jokes along the way. Justin felt uncomfortable using his podcast voice in front of Ava so he was also painfully awkward and didn't know what to talk about. We tried our best. -ava