Welcome back to Whiskey Provisioner! In this episode, hosts Richard and So-Han (West China Tea) are joined once again by guest CJ to venture beyond whiskey and into the world of French brandy.

CJ shares a bottle of Len Cantata XO Armagnac, sparking a deep dive into the "other world spirits" that inspire many modern whiskey makers.

If you've ever stood in a liquor store and wondered what the real difference is between Cognac and Armagnac, this is the episode for you.

• Cognac vs. Armagnac: CJ breaks down the fundamental differences, from their specific regions and grapes to their distinct distillation methods (double-pot stills for Cognac vs. single-column stills for Armagnac).

• Mobile Stills: Richard explains how Armagnac stills are often brought from farm to farm to distill wine from successful harvests.

• Decoding the Label: The group explains the aging designations: VS (Very Special), VSOP (Very Special Old Pale), and XO (Extra Old).

• XO Sauce: So-Han shares the fascinating connection between luxury Cognac and the name of the famous Cantonese "XO sauce."

• French Techniques: The conversation explores old-world brandy-making techniques like Petites Eaux—the art of aging low-proof spirits to use for blending and proofing instead of water, adding incredible complexity and mouthfeel.

• The "Bourbon Box": The crew discusses why these complex, centuries-old techniques aren't used in bourbon (Hint: It would be illegal to call it "bourbon") and how brand recognition often shapes the market more than innovation.

• Brandy: Len Cantata XO Armagnac (Houston Bourbon Society Pick)

• Tea: Red Tea

Join the conversation as they sip this complex brandy, pair it with tea, and discuss how these old-world methods are influencing the future of American whiskey.

Cheers!