Enson and James are back this time with special guest Ian McCall. They discuss the psilocybin mushroom that got Enson arrested, the benefits, who’s taking it, decriminalization across the world, Ian’s recent work with Ayahuasca and athletes, Ian’s conversations with the UFC, who’s helping fund the programme, the work Ian does a coach, looking at advice he would give to Enson, WWE’s interest in his work, Ian’s last fights in RIZIN and his thoughts on his career and more.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
01:16 - Recent contact with Ian
01:40 - Package Ian sent to Enson
03:30 - Japan's view on Mushrooms
05:30 - Decriminalization
08:25 - Strict immigration
09:45 - Popularity of products
12:49 - Impact of mushrooms
14:00 - Availability of product
16:19 - UFC no longer exploring mushrooms
19:44 - Ian getting into studies with Ayahuasca for athletes
25:22 - What is Ayahuasca
28:40 - People sharing their stories and experiences
33:20 - What's happening with the data
33:20 - WWE interest?
35:30 - BYB investment
38:05 - Helping people after retirement
39:40 - Coaching athletes
43:58 - Consultation with Enson
47:40 - Experiencing 20grams
49:03 - Advice for newbies
50:20 - How they first met
52:01 - Ian's last fights in RIZIN
55:40 - How to keep up to date with Ian
56:50 - Bracelets
58:30 - Outro