SageGlass wanted a vibrant Women’s Network. Chuck Hayes, VP of HR (and everything else), shares his story of trying unsuccessfully to get one started. It’s a fascinating story and one the that lead to much learning. We share these ‘real’ stories, so other organizations may not have to “pay the dumb tax,” as Chuck calls it. One of the most important lessons was “You’ve got to do the journey”. And the second times a charm, and Sage now has a Women’s Network. Listen to how, after one simple act; the network, now networks for the company. “This was a dividend I certainly didn’t expect to get. There are a lot of subtle nuances in this lively conversation. At one-point Chuck reiterates how important it is for us to pay attention when something doesn’t feel right. Many times, something is going on, and it is better to address it immediately rather then ignore the cognitive dissonance. He also shares how the Women’s Network helped him to create one of the best parental leave policies. For Chuck, “It’s about creating a culture that allows people to be their authentic selves and to be excellent in all the areas of their lives.”