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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
Stephanie Winn
194 episodes
1 day ago
A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide? Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.
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A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide? Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.
Show more...
Mental Health
Society & Culture,
Health & Fitness,
Relationships
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177. Emotional Maturity and Masculine Mentorship | Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen, LMFT
You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
1 hour 40 minutes
4 months ago
177. Emotional Maturity and Masculine Mentorship | Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen, LMFT

In this episode, I have the pleasure of welcoming back two incredible guests, Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen, both of whom are seasoned therapists and passionate advocates for mental health. We dive deep into the nuances of mentorship and the importance of genuine relationships in our professional lives. As we explore their unique friendship, I’m reminded of the value of having mentors who challenge us to grow and see our potential.

One of the key concepts we discuss is the balance between ego and humility in our interactions, particularly in therapeutic settings. We reflect on the idea that being open to feedback and recognizing our limitations can lead to profound personal growth. Dr. Conte shares insights from his Yield Theory, emphasizing the importance of meeting people where they are and leading with humility rather than authority.

We also tackle the complexities of dual relationships in therapy, questioning the strict boundaries often imposed in our field. How can we foster authentic connections while maintaining professionalism? This episode aims to explore these questions and more, ultimately highlighting the transformative power of mentorship and the deep connections that can arise from genuine care and intentionality in our relationships.

  •  How can being skeptical of your own ego lead to personal growth?
  •  What role does the word "maybe" play in shaping our beliefs?
  •  How did Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen meet, and what is the nature of their relationship?
  •  What is Yield Theory, and how does it relate to communication and emotional management?
  •  How can mentorship positively impact personal and professional development?
  •  What are the ethical considerations surrounding dual relationships in therapy?
  •  How can therapists maintain boundaries while fostering genuine connections with clients?
  •  What is the significance of intentionality in therapeutic and mentoring relationships?
  •  How can therapists effectively challenge their clients to help them grow?
  •  What are the limitations of the medical model in understanding human behavior?
  •  How can psychodynamic theory complement behaviorism in therapy?
  •  Why is it important to focus on the underlying issues rather than just symptoms in therapy?
  •  How can therapists work to create a non-weird environment for their clients?
  •  What are the challenges of conducting research in the field of psychology?
  •  How can anecdotal evidence be valuable in understanding the effectiveness of therapeutic approaches?
  •  What is the importance of discernment in navigating relationships and professional boundaries?

Jake Wiskerchen, LMFT owns and operates Zephyr Wellness in northern Nevada and serves on the board of Walk the Talk America. His emotional functioning videos mentioned in this episode can be found here. Follow him at Twitter/X: @jakewisk

Dr. Christian Conte is a nationally recognized mental health specialist with over 25 years of experience, creator of Yield Theory, and author who has worked with diverse populations from maximum security prisoners to elite professionals. With a Ph.D. in Counselor Education and Supervision, he blends ancient wisdom and modern psychology to teach self-mastery and emotional strength, helping people become their most authentic selves through direct, compassionate communication.

Books by Dr. Conte:

Strong Mind, Strong Man: The Blueprint for Mental Toughness, Self-Mastery and Real Strength

Walking Through Anger: A New Design for Confronting Conflict in an Emotionally Charged World

21 Days To Change Your Life: A Yield Theory Workbook

Advanced Techniques for Counseling and Psychotherapy

Mastering What You Practice: Learning to Control Your Emotions

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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide? Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.