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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
Stephanie Winn
187 episodes
6 days ago
You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist intimately explores the human experience while critiquing the state of the counseling profession as it yields to cultural madness. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist as she pivots away from treating patients, and toward the question of how to apply psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of gender identity to assisted suicide? Stephanie invites heretical, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including current and former therapists, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. *ISSUES LISTENING ON SPOTIFY* - If you notice some episodes missing from Spotify, you can find them on any other platform. New episodes are released every Monday, and all are present in numerical order, so you should always see an episode that has been released within the past week, followed by episodes in descending numerical order without any missing numbers. Spotify has a backwards and archaic system for flagging copyrighted content for removal. This podcast has a license to use its theme song, Half Awake by Joey Pecoraro, but Spotify's system keeps removing it anyway, and demands that podcast creators manually appeal the removal for every episode. This is obviously ridiculous. Spotify needs to get it together.
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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist intimately explores the human experience while critiquing the state of the counseling profession as it yields to cultural madness. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist as she pivots away from treating patients, and toward the question of how to apply psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of gender identity to assisted suicide? Stephanie invites heretical, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including current and former therapists, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. *ISSUES LISTENING ON SPOTIFY* - If you notice some episodes missing from Spotify, you can find them on any other platform. New episodes are released every Monday, and all are present in numerical order, so you should always see an episode that has been released within the past week, followed by episodes in descending numerical order without any missing numbers. Spotify has a backwards and archaic system for flagging copyrighted content for removal. This podcast has a license to use its theme song, Half Awake by Joey Pecoraro, but Spotify's system keeps removing it anyway, and demands that podcast creators manually appeal the removal for every episode. This is obviously ridiculous. Spotify needs to get it together.
Show more...
Mental Health
Society & Culture,
Health & Fitness,
Relationships
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188. Coming to Jesus: Spiritual Revival and the End of Seeking with Will Spencer
You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
1 hour 54 minutes
1 week ago
188. Coming to Jesus: Spiritual Revival and the End of Seeking with Will Spencer

In this deeply personal conversation, I welcome back Will Spencer to discuss our shared journeys to Christianity and the spiritual revival currently unfolding. We begin by connecting over musician Nick Mulvey's recent testimony of faith, which moves us both to tears as we recognize kindred spirits joining the Kingdom of God. 

Will shares his journey from being what Carl Teichrib calls "Perennial Man" - traveling the world, exploring transformational festivals, and seeking through psychedelics - to finding true peace in scripture. We discuss the challenges of navigating relationships with those still in New Age circles, the importance of genuine repentance versus simple regret, and how Christianity offers complete freedom from the burdens that no amount of therapy or spiritual practice could lift. 

Will's story of concrete blocks at the bottom of his psyche that dissolved through sanctification beautifully illustrates the peace that surpasses understanding, available to all who come to faith.

Will Spencer is an evangelist and adventurer who journeyed from Stanford University and the Dotcom Boom through 30 countries. He's explored spiritual traditions worldwide: from meditation in the Himalayas to ayahuasca retreats in the Amazon. The Lord found him at the Burning Man festival in Nevada. Now he hosts The Will Spencer Podcast and helps rescue men from destructive thinking and find their way to Christ. Follow him on X @renofmen, on YouTube @willspencerpod or via his Linktree.

Will Spencer originally appeared on episode 181 of my podcast, From Ayahuasca to Christ: Will Spencer on Escaping the Serpent's Deception. That conversation was one of three (along with 182 and 184) that were censored on Spotify for several weeks due to inane AI copyright flagging issues detailed in episode 187. Fortunately, after extensive advocacy, those episodes have been re-released and are available on Spotify once again; they have remained consistently available on all other audio platforms and YouTube. At this time, I can only hope that the root cause of the issue has been addressed and Spotify will not wrongfully remove any more of my episodes. However, should any appear missing, you can find them on any other platform of your choice starting here. 

Nick Mulvey links mentioned:

  • Testimony, "My Ancient Friend"
  • Song, Fever to the Form
  • Album about coming to the faith: Dark Harvest Part 1, Dark Harvest Part 2


Books mentioned:

  • Game of Gods by Carl Teichrib
  • Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan


[00:00:00] Start

[00:01:06] Introduction To Guest Will Spencer

[00:04:14] Stephanie’s Public Declaration Of Faith

[00:07:42] How Music Opened The Door To God

[00:13:05] Leaving The New Age Behind

[00:19:20] Finding Truth Through Scripture

[00:25:48] Lessons From Ecclesiastes And Solomon

[00:33:12] CS Lewis And The Reality Of Choice

[00:42:07] Will’s Baptism And Early Faith Journey

[00:53:44] Recognizing God’s Guidance Through Crisis

[01:04:30] The Battle Between Ego And Surrender

[01:16:18] From Therapy To Faith-Based Coaching

[01:29:47] Spiritual Leadership And Masculine Purpose

[01:41:55] Women, Compassion, And Biblical Strength

[01:55:12] Peace Beyond Understanding And Closing Reflections

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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist intimately explores the human experience while critiquing the state of the counseling profession as it yields to cultural madness. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist as she pivots away from treating patients, and toward the question of how to apply psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of gender identity to assisted suicide? Stephanie invites heretical, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including current and former therapists, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. *ISSUES LISTENING ON SPOTIFY* - If you notice some episodes missing from Spotify, you can find them on any other platform. New episodes are released every Monday, and all are present in numerical order, so you should always see an episode that has been released within the past week, followed by episodes in descending numerical order without any missing numbers. Spotify has a backwards and archaic system for flagging copyrighted content for removal. This podcast has a license to use its theme song, Half Awake by Joey Pecoraro, but Spotify's system keeps removing it anyway, and demands that podcast creators manually appeal the removal for every episode. This is obviously ridiculous. Spotify needs to get it together.