In this next episode of our "In The Spotlight" series regular hosts Craig Richards and Dawn Hurst are put in the hotseat to discuss their new book, Woke Is Broke...But we can fix it by Guest Host James Barr.

The conversation focuses on the importance of inclusion in organizations, particularly within FTSE 100 companies and the public sector. The speakers emphasize their commitment to changing the conversation around inclusion, rather than merely selling books. They challenge leaders to consider the effectiveness and impact of their inclusion efforts, asking critical questions about skills, training, and return on investment.

• We haven't just written a book to make a few quid.
• This is about changing the conversation.
• We've also challenged them with three important questions.
• Who does your inclusion work?
• Do they have the right skills and training?
• Do you understand the impact of the work they're doing?
• There's sometimes negative impact of this stuff too.
• Do you know your return?
• If you're investing, do you know what return you're getting?
• If you can't answer those questions, then the book is for you.