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AI Church Toolkit
Peter Levenstrong, Mercedes Clements & AI
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A podcast on AI and the Church
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AI Church Toolkit
Episode 12 - Reflections and Future Directions: Wrapping Up Season One

In this final episode of Season One, Mercedes and Peter reflect on what they’ve learned over six months of exploring AI and ministry. From shifting use patterns to theological concerns, from project workflows to mental health implications, they chart both practical strategies and faithful commitments for churches navigating an AI-shaped world.


Topics Covered:

  • Sci-fi stories as mirrors for our hopes and fears about AI
  • Why relational ministry can’t be automated
  • The emotional effects of AI vs. social media
  • Reasoning models and context engineering in ChatGPT
  • What AI can and can’t do for church communications and planning
  • Human oversight, authenticity, and theological discernment
  • How AI is accelerating—and why that matters for churches
  • AI agents, multimodal tools, and upcoming tech like GPT-5
  • Mental health concerns and potential risks of AI use
  • The enduring value of community and the spoken word
  • Personal updates and what’s next for Peter and Mercedes


Resources Mentioned:

  • Living Stories Sermons: livingstoriessermons.org
  • Spike Jonze’s Her (film)
  • Brandon Sanderson’s Skyward series (featuring the AI “M-Bot”)
  • Murderbot Diaries (TV adaptation mentioned by Peter)
  • The Murder Bot Diaries (book series by Martha Wells)
  • Neil Stephenson’s Fall or, Dodge in Hell


Homework:

  • Try building a ChatGPT Project Folder for a current ministry task—use it for planning, then test it again for communications.
  • Reflect on your values: What parts of your work are deeply relational and should never be automated?
  • Watch a sci-fi film or read a story that features AI. What values does it reflect? What fears or hopes does it raise?
  • (00:08) - GPT5 from OpenAI is expected to come out very soon
  • (00:11) - Moore's Law says computing power doubles every two years
  • (00:29) - Authenticity in the church using artificial intelligence
  • (00:36) - Using AI to help write more fluently and more quickly
  • (00:54) - The usefulness of reasoning models
  • (00:56) - Closing Thoughts
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4 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Sr. Ilia Delio on AI, Evolution, and Who We’re Becoming

Sr. Ilia Delio, OSF, joins Peter and Mercedes for a conversation that weaves theology, science, and technology into a hopeful and challenging vision for the future. Drawing on Teilhard de Chardin’s evolutionary theology, she invites us to see AI not merely as a tool but as part of the unfolding of creation itself. Together, they explore what it means to become more whole, more relational, and more deeply rooted in divine love in an age shaped by artificial intelligence.


Topics Covered:

  • AI as human augmentation and biological extension
  • The theology of Teilhard de Chardin and cosmic evolution
  • The Adamic myth and how it influences modern perspectives on technology
  • AI, collective consciousness, and global interconnectedness
  • The ethical implications of AI in a capitalist system
  • Defining personhood in an evolutionary worldview
  • Moving from categorical to networked thinking in younger generations
  • Developing spiritual practices alongside technological advancement
  • Living from our God-centered being while engaging AI


Resources Mentioned:

  • Ilia Delio, Re-enchanting the Earth
  • Ilia Delio, Integral Ecology in an Age of AI
  • Teilhard de Chardin
  • David Noble, The Religion of Technology 
  • Catherine Hales, How We Became Posthuman
  • Erich Jantsch, The Self-Organizing Universe: Scientific and Human Implications of the Emerging Paradigm of Evolution
  • (00:08) - Does AI enhance or diminish face-to-face connection?
  • (00:17) - Cultivating a mindset that feels at home with AI
  • (00:34) - Teilhard: Humanity has a “God problem” with AI
  • (00:35) - David Noble: AI is enhancing human function and capacity
  • (00:42) - Peter Singer: AI might help us recover broader moral thinking
  • (00:44) - Mercedes: Complexity is driving today’s evolution
  • (00:50) - Teilhard: Love is at the heart of all cosmic life
  • (00:55) - What are we living into in this moment of AI development?
  • (00:56) - A critique of AI based on the social media era
  • (00:56) - Reflections from the Episcopal Church’s AI ethics task force
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4 months ago
51 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
AI, Agency, and the Church: A Crossroads Crossover

In this special crossover episode with the Crossroads podcast, Peter and Mercedes are joined by The Rev. Jo Nygard Owens and Dr. Sonia Coman of Washington National Cathedral. Together, they explore what it means to engage AI thoughtfully and faithfully—from theological reflection to digital strategy, from ethical caution to spiritual curiosity.


The conversation invites listeners to embrace imagination, resist fear, and reclaim human agency in a rapidly shifting digital landscape.


Topics Covered

  • Defining intelligence, agency, and the Imago Dei in a world of machine decision-making
  • What “authenticity” means in the age of machine-written texts
  • Discernment, formation, and critical thinking across age groups
  • The risk of opacity in automated systems and importance of transparency
  • Pausing before automation: reclaiming intention, emotion, and spiritual grounding
  • Why we need shared vocabulary—and shared discernment—across the Church


Resources Mentioned

  • Searches: Selfhood in a Digital Age by Vaushini Vara
  • Nexus by Yuval Noah Harari
  • Crossroads Podcast from Washington National Cathedral
  • Research on AI interpretability by Anthropic


Homework

Reach out to us and let us know how you’ve found generative AI to be useful in church ministry. You can email at info@aichurchtoolkit.com. We’d love to share ideas in our final episode of the season as we consider a round-up of our topics and how things are evolving.

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5 months ago
59 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
AI, Ethics, and Empathy: A Conversation with Rev. Lauren Grubaugh Thomas

In this episode, Peter speaks with the Rev. Lauren Grubaugh Thomas, founding vicar of Holy Companion Episcopal Church and creator of A Soulful Revolution. Together, they explore the ethical and pastoral complexities of generative AI—its creative potential, its risks, and how the church can faithfully engage with this rapidly evolving technology.


Lauren draws on insights from Octavia Butler’s Parable of the Sower, shares stories from her ministry, and reflects on how spiritual formation, agency, and justice intersect with digital tools. From AI’s inherent bias to the dangers of false intimacy, this episode invites listeners to bring curiosity and caution as they shape change in an AI-shaped world.


Resources Mentioned

  • Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler
  • Roots and Wings at VTS Center 
  • A Kid’s Book About AI Bias by Dr. Avril Epps
  • “A Soulful Revolution” by Lauren Grubaugh Thomas (Substack)
  • Brittany Hartley


Homework

  • Lauren invites listeners to reflect on their own use of AI with questions such as:
    • Does this output reflect a just world?
    • Does it reinforce an unfair hierarchy?
    • Does it promote the agency and power of children (and others) to shape the world?
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5 months ago
55 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Meaning, Intention, and AI — A Conversation with Kyle Oliver

Priest, educator, and digital ministry expert Kyle Oliver joins Peter to explore the possibilities and perils of AI in content creation, Christian formation, and online communication. They reflect on the tension between productivity and presence, and what faithful engagement might look like.

Topics Covered

  • Kyle’s cautious experimentation with generative AI in content creation.

  • The struggle for creative control and the limits of “black box” tools.
  • What happens when beauty is decoupled from intention in digital art and music.
  • AI’s impact on church communications and how to maintain a human voice.
  • Concerns about AI-generated content overwhelming social platforms.
  • The temptation of superhuman productivity and resisting false intimacy.
  • Using AI for feedback, coaching, and spiritual discipline—while staying grounded in community.
  • Why Christian formation needs to help people remember they are finite and beloved.

Homework

  • Reflect on the balance between productivity and intention in your own use of AI.

  • Try using AI to offer feedback on one of your recent creative or teaching efforts—then evaluate what’s helpful and what’s not.
  • Ask yourself: Does this tool help me flourish—or tempt me to forget I’m human?

Resources

  • Kyle Oliver’s Website

  • “Searches: Selfhood in the Digital Age” Vauhini Vara
  • Ryan Broderick’s Garbage Day newsletter
  • AI Church Toolkit website
  • Platformer by Casey Newton

  • (00:00) - Chapter 1
  • (00:00) - Chapter 2
  • (00:00) - Chapter 3
  • (00:00) - Chapter 4
  • (00:00) - Chapter 5
  • (00:00) - Chapter 6
  • (00:00) - Chapter 7
  • (00:00) - Chapter 8
  • (00:00) - Chapter 9
  • (00:04) - How do we respond to AI generated content on social media platforms
  • (00:08) - Peter Frum says people need to get in touch with finitude
  • (00:09) - OpenAI's ChatGPT could potentially be used for real manipulation
  • (00:10) - Modern art seems to have already experienced decoupling of beauty and intention
  • (00:12) - I'm reading a book called Search searches Selfhood in a Digital Age
  • (00:16) - How do you see Christian formation changing in light of generative AI
  • (00:17) - How are you using generative AI in your ministry today
  • (00:18) - You are an expert in digital communications ministry as well as Christian formation
  • (00:32) - Kyla: In this era we need to resist temptation and evil
  • (00:43) - What sci fi world are we living into in this present moment of AI development
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6 months ago
47 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Interview with the Rev. Dr. Lorenzo Lebrija – Ask Cathy, AI, and Faithful Innovation

In our first interview episode, we sit down with Fr. Lorenzo Lebrija, Executive Director of the TryTank Research Institute, to discuss faithful innovation, the creation of Ask Cathy, the challenges and promises of AI, and how the church can thoughtfully engage this rapidly changing landscape.

Topics covered:

  • Introduction to Ask Cathy: An AI resource trained in the Episcopal tradition to assist congregations, especially small ones.
  • Plans for future Cathy updates, including liturgy support, pastoral resources, and administrative help.
  • Using AI to strengthen—not replace—human relationships in ministry.
  • How AI can support spiritual growth through journaling, faith coaching, and pastoral care prompts.
  • Discerning faithful innovation: How Tri-Tank evaluates which ideas to pursue.
  • The polarization of attitudes toward AI and why thoughtful church engagement matters.
  • Ethical considerations: bias in AI training, capitalism’s impact, and the church’s role in shaping AI ethically.
  • Practical advice for using AI tools to support inclusion, learning, and community life.


Homework:

  • Reflect: How could AI tools like Ask Cathy support your ministry or your congregation’s pastoral care needs?
  • Explore: Visit askcathy.ai to see how Cathy works.
  • Experiment: Try prompting your AI tool to offer more inclusive or diverse perspectives and reflect on the results.
  • Prepare: Think about ways you can frame AI conversations with your congregation if you haven’t already started.


Resources:

  • Ask Cathy – Churchy Answers That Help You
  • TryTank Research Institute
  • AI Church Conference Information
  • How to Try by Lorenzo Lebrija (Book on faithful experimentation in ministry)
  • Mission Canvas – TryTank’s tool for evaluating new ministry ideas
  • Harvard Business Review: How People Are Really Using Gen AI in 2025
  • Episcopal Church Task Force on AI and Intellectual Property (ongoing work)
  • Living Stories Sermons - Project of Rev. Peter Levenstrong
  • Backstory Preaching - Timely & practical support thriving while accomplishing the daily work of preaching

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6 months ago
58 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Introducing AI in Your Church

Summary:
How do you introduce AI into your congregation thoughtfully and transparently? In this episode, we share real-life experiences, challenges, and lessons learned about navigating conversations, addressing concerns, and building trust as church leaders using AI.

Show Notes:

  • Topics covered:

    • Mercedes’s step-by-step approach to introducing AI at All Saints’ Episcopal Church.
      Transparency about AI use, including from the pulpit and in vestry discussions.
    • Managing expectations with a Responsible Use Policy.
    • Building trust by sharing examples and demonstrating how AI supports ministry work.
    • Addressing ethical concerns: privacy, protecting human creatives, and environmental impact.
    • Practical advice for other leaders feeling cautious about starting these conversations.

Homework:

  • Reflect on how you currently use AI and how you communicate that use to your congregation.
  • Consider if your church needs a Responsible Use Policy or clearer communication strategies.
  • If you're planning to introduce AI tools, prepare concrete examples to show how they support, not replace, human ministry.


Resources:

  • https://aichurchtoolkit.com/
  • https://www.livingstoriessermons.org/
  • https://www.backstorypreaching.com/

  • (00:06) - Think about your own organization, where you work. Do you need to have some transparent conversations about using generative AI
  • (00:07) - You went on a trip to discuss AI with clergy about sermon writing
  • (00:07) - How do you build trust with your parishioners around something as unfamiliar as AI
  • (00:14) - Tesla full self driving mode requires you to keep hands on the wheel
  • (00:17) - Church uses AI to process SWOT analysis from strategic planning
  • (00:19) - Does AI written prayer count as prayer? Well, I have used it
  • (00:22) - We tend to focus on the sermon writing, but policies are a red herring
  • (00:23) - How did you introduce the idea of using AI to your parish
  • (00:27) - If you're working with AI, we recommend starting to communicate early and often
  • (00:34) - One parishioner maintained that AI shouldn't be used at all
  • (00:35) - Mercedes: Bringing AI up with your congregation requires some preparation
  • (00:40) - You have to navigate this transition transparently and pastorally
  • (00:44) - Have you ever had to adjust course based on feedback from your congregation
  • (00:47) - Mercedes uses AI to help write sermons and revise them
  • (00:51) - Is using AI cheating? How would you respond to that question
  • (00:53) - How do you decide how frequently to disclose AI use
  • (00:57) - I think helping people navigate AI helps them throughout their lives
  • (00:59) - There are many ethical and moral questions about using generative AI
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7 months ago
49 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
How to relate to AI - Part 2

Episode 5: Relating to AI

Summary:
Can we have a relationship with AI? In this episode, we explore the human tendency to anthropomorphize AI, the risks of treating it like a person, and how to stay grounded in using it as a tool that supports ministry, without replacing authentic relationships.

Topics covered:

  • Why AI is not a relational being and should be treated as a tool.
  • Real-world examples of people forming unhealthy attachments to chatbots.
  • The dangers of anthropomorphizing AI, especially for youth and vulnerable users.
  • How to engage AI intentionally and avoid theological or emotional confusion.
  • Strategies for using AI in ministry while maintaining emotional and relational boundaries.

Homework:

  • Reflect on how you currently use AI.
  • Ask: “Does this enhance relationships or replace them?”
  • Identify boundaries you may need to set around emotional or theological engagement with AI.

Resources:

  • She Is in Love With ChatGPT
  • Andy Masley’s article on AI’s environmental impact
  • Antiqua et Nova – Catholic Church, Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence
  • OpenAI & MIT Media Lab study on AI and loneliness
  • https://aichurchtoolkit.com/
  • “AI Technology Panic—is AI Dependence Bad for Mental Health? A Cross-Lagged Panel Model and the Mediating Roles of Motivations for AI Use Among Adolescents”
  • "Anthropomorphism in AI" 
  • "AI anthropomorphism and its effect on users' self-congruence and continuance intention"
  • “Anthropomorphism in AI: hype and fallacy”
  • Teddy Ruxpin
  • Max Headroom
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7 months ago
26 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
How to relate to AI - Part 1

Episode 5: Relating to AI

Summary:
Can we have a relationship with AI? In this episode, we explore the human tendency to anthropomorphize AI, the risks of treating it like a person, and how to stay grounded in using it as a tool that supports ministry, without replacing authentic relationships.

Topics covered:

  • Why AI is not a relational being and should be treated as a tool.
  • Real-world examples of people forming unhealthy attachments to chatbots.
  • The dangers of anthropomorphizing AI, especially for youth and vulnerable users.
  • How to engage AI intentionally and avoid theological or emotional confusion.
  • Strategies for using AI in ministry while maintaining emotional and relational boundaries.

Homework:

  • Reflect on how you currently use AI.
  • Ask: “Does this enhance relationships or replace them?”
  • Identify boundaries you may need to set around emotional or theological engagement with AI.

Resources:

  • She Is in Love With ChatGPT
  • Andy Masley’s article on AI’s environmental impact
  • Antiqua et Nova – Catholic Church, Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence
  • OpenAI & MIT Media Lab study on AI and loneliness
  • https://aichurchtoolkit.com/
  • “AI Technology Panic—is AI Dependence Bad for Mental Health? A Cross-Lagged Panel Model and the Mediating Roles of Motivations for AI Use Among Adolescents”
  • "Anthropomorphism in AI" 
  • "AI anthropomorphism and its effect on users' self-congruence and continuance intention"
  • “Anthropomorphism in AI: hype and fallacy”
  • Teddy Ruxpin
  • Max Headroom


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7 months ago
23 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Impact of Using AI

AI’s environmental impact is a growing concern, but how much energy does it really use? In this episode, we break down common claims about AI’s carbon footprint, explore how it compares to other technologies, and discuss how church leaders can make informed decisions about its use.

Topics covered:

  • Common claims about AI’s environmental impact.
  • Breaking down AI’s electricity and water usage.
  • Comparisons between AI, streaming services, and other digital technologies.
  • The difference between AI training and inference.
  • How AI efficiency is improving over time.

Homework:

  • Research the environmental impact of various AI models.
  • If you have a ChatGPT subscription, experiment with different models to see how their efficiency varies.
  • Learn which models are best suited for your needs while minimizing energy consumption.

Resources:

  • “Using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment,” Andy Masley, Jan. 13, 2025
  • AI Church Toolkit website

Made possible by the TryTank Research Institute.

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8 months ago
21 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Transition in Posting Schedule

In this short update, Mercedes and Peter announce a shift to a biweekly release schedule for the AI Church Toolkit Podcast. They share their commitment to delivering thoughtful, faith-rooted conversations about AI in ministry—and tease next week’s episode on AI’s real-world impacts, from environmental costs to ministry applications. A big shoutout goes to Tritank for supporting the show. Hit follow, leave a review, and stay tuned for more tools for faithful innovation!

Resources:

  • AI Church Toolkit website


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8 months ago
3 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Sermon Writing with AI

AI can be a valuable tool for sermon preparation, but how can preachers use it responsibly? This episode explores how AI can assist with research, outlining, and revision while ensuring sermons remain authentic, faithful, and pastorally grounded.


Topics covered:

  • AI as a sermon-writing assistant, not a replacement.
  • Common concerns: plagiarism, theological integrity, and authenticity.
  • Practical AI uses:
    • Researching scripture and historical context.
    • Brainstorming sermon themes and outlines.
    • Revising for clarity and flow.
  • Ethical considerations: Citing sources, maintaining a preacher’s voice, and avoiding biases.


Homework:

  • Experiment with ChatGPT to brainstorm sermon ideas for an upcoming Sunday.
  • Draft an outline and reflect on how AI-assisted brainstorming compares to your usual process.


Resources:

  • AI Church Toolkit website

Made possible by the TryTank Research Institute.

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8 months ago
37 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Discernment of AI Use in Ministry

What exactly is AI, and how can it be useful in church ministry? This episode explains AI in simple terms, explores its applications for church leaders, and discusses how to use it effectively while maintaining authenticity and discernment.

Topics covered:

  • What is AI? A quick history and key definitions.
  • AI vs. search engines: How generative AI works differently.
  • How AI can assist ministry: Sermons, outreach, lesson planning, and more.
  • The role of discernment: AI as a brainstorming tool, not a replacement for human creativity.

Homework:

  • Try using ChatGPT to answer a common visitor question from your church.
  • Add context (denomination, location, etc.) and compare responses.


Resources:

  • AI Church Toolkit website

Made possible by the TryTank Research Institute.

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8 months ago
32 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Current State of AI & Church Responses

AI is rapidly evolving, and church leaders need to understand how it can impact ministry. This episode covers the current AI landscape, key definitions, ethical concerns, and why the Baptismal Covenant provides a helpful framework for engagement.

Topics covered:

  • Why AI matters for ministry today.
  • Key definitions: AI, Machine Learning, Generative AI.
  • Current AI trends (LLMs, image generation, voice tools, and upcoming AI "agents").
  • Ethical concerns: AI bias, copyright, and the role of human creativity.

Homework:

  • Try using AI for a small task in your ministry this week.

Resources:

  • AI Church Toolkit website
  • Ethan Mollick - Detecting the Secret Cyborgs

Made possible by the TryTank Research Institute.

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9 months ago
35 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
Teaser

Welcome to AI Church Toolkit, a podcast for church leaders exploring how AI can support ministry in practical ways. Hosts Mercedes Clements and Peter Levenstrong introduce themselves, their goals for the podcast, and why AI matters for the Church today.

Topics Covered

Hosts: The Rev. Mercedes Clements (All Saints’ Episcopal, Russellville, AR) & The Rev. Peter Levenstrong (St. Gregory’s of Nyssa, San Francisco, CA).

Podcast focus: Practical applications of AI in ministry—no sci-fi hype, just real tools for real churches.
Why this podcast? AI is already shaping our world, and it’s time for church leaders to engage thoughtfully.
Scriptural foundation: Matthew 5:14-16—Let your light shine!


Resources:
AI Church Toolkit website

Made possible by the TryTank Research Institute.

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9 months ago
6 minutes

AI Church Toolkit
A podcast on AI and the Church