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Psi Corps is here, consent is optional, and suddenly everyone is VERY uncomfortable - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 8, “A Race Through Dark Places.”

The crew breaks down Bester’s deeply unsettling debut, the moral horror of telepath control, and why this episode quietly reframes everything we thought we knew about EarthGov. With three industry pros at the table, we analyze how JMS uses sci-fi to interrogate power, fascism, and complicity, while Gus and Ali experience the full psychic damage of this storyline for the first time.

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Three wives, a creepy ex-husband, and perhaps the biggest foot-in-mouth moment in our podcast's history - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 7, “Soul Mates.”

In this episode, the crew spirals after accidentally roasting writer Peter David before realizing his legendary status (and recent passing). We unpack the "Real Housewives of Centauri Prime" energy , why referring to people as "breeding stock" is an immediate Psi Corps red flag , and the wholesome delight of the Ivanova/Delenn hair salon scene. Jenn and Ali also analyze the difference between "omnipresent" showrunning and true collaboration. 


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Psi Corps, brainwashing, and a conspiracy that absolutely does not feel resolved - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 6, “A Spider in the Web.” What starts as a slow-burn spy thriller quietly lays down some deeply unsettling foundations for the rest of the season.

The crew unpacks Bureau 13, personality conditioning, and why this episode feels like it’s setting pins instead of knocking them down. Jenn talks TV structure and why 90s commercial-era storytelling hits differently, Gus spirals into mole-hunting paranoia, and everyone agrees that Talia White’s arc just took a dark turn. Also discussed: rising Season 2 production value, JMS gaining creative freedom, and the Ivanova-Talia subtext that the camera absolutely lingers on. No spoilers beyond this episode.

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This week on Babble On, Jenny, Gus, and Ali dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 5, “The Long Dark.” It’s the episode where space gets genuinely creepy, Dwight Schultz delivers an all-timer performance, and Dr. Franklin makes choices that immediately land him on everyone’s watchlist. The trio talks horror vibes, Shadow-adjacent lore, why this episode is weirdly load-bearing for the series, and how one excellent monologue is competing with some deeply uncomfortable 90s television decisions.

Jenn joins Jenny later for the full-spoiler Grey Council discussion. Also: yes, Dr. Franklin is still canceled, and no, there is still no HR in space.

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This week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 4, “A Distant Star.” It’s the episode where hyperspace gets weird, Dr. Franklin becomes the self-appointed Food Police, and Sheridan questions whether he should be running a space station… or just running laps. The crew debates whether D.C. Fontana wrote the emotional arc and JMS sprinkled in the dad jokes, why the edit feels like a Frankenstein’s monster of walk-and-talks, and how the bonfire on the bridge happened despite JMS explicitly saying “no giant flames, please.”

Also: the eternal truth that there is still no HR in space.

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Technomages, a ridiculous color-coded civil war, and the fashion statement of the century — this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus discuss Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 3, "The Geometry of Shadows." It’s supposed to be a "breather" episode , but between Londo’s looming genocide prophecy and Garibaldi’s dark night of the soul, the vibes are complicated.

Jenn breaks down how a real-life broken foot changed Ivanova’s fight scenes , Gus launches an unauthorized infomercial for "Londo Hair" , and the crew tries to keep a straight face while discussing the works of Michael Moorcock. Also: Green vs. Purple chaos , Technomage lore , and why Veer is the bravest person on the station.



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Sheridan grief, goo-soaked rebirths, and Londo making the absolute worst decisions - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Season 2’s second episode, “Revelations.” From Delenn’s dramatic emergence to the deepening Shadows plotline, this one delivers character turmoil, lore drops, and far-reaching consequences.

Jenn breaks down the emotional and thematic weight of Sheridan’s storyline, Ali loses her mind over G'Kar’s prophecy streak. Jenny, meanwhile, cannot stop bringing up the goo. Also: bone crowns, ethics debates, and a surprising amount of conversation about space urchins.

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Minbari souls, Jeff-related heartbreak, and the debut of Babylon 5’s newest captain — this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus tackle the Season 2 opener, “Points of Departure.” From the massive Minbari reveal to the behind-the-scenes reasons Sinclair vanishes overnight, it’s a premiere packed with lore and emotions.

Ali spirals into soul-theory chaos, Jenn talks story structure during a lead swap, and Gus embraces Sheridan’s chaotic good energy. Also: unexpected jokes, unexpected feelings, and a whole lot of Jeff grief.

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Cocoons, conspiracies, and… traffic cones?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus and guest Ean dig into the game-changing Babylon 5 Season 1 finale, “Chrysalis.” We break down Delenn’s shocking transformation, the assassination plot that flips the station on its head, and the chilling sense that the Shadows are finally moving.

Ali spirals into theories about what’s inside the cocoon, Jenn breaks down how JMS escalates a narrative into a full-on paradigm shift, and Gus argues that Londo just made the worst deal in sci-fi history. We also detour into costume symbolism, chaotic headcanon, and the moment Babble On officially lost its mind over set dressing. 🚧 

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*Note: We recorded this reaction & podcast discussion prior to the sad news of June Lockhart’s passing. In the episode, we mention her as still living at the time. June Lockhart was a beloved icon of television, and we send our love and respect to her family, friends, and fans. May her memory be a blessing. 💙*

🧠 Mercy, mind wipes, and… tentacle poker?! Jenny, Jenn, and first-timers Ali and Gus (with guest Ian!) dive into “The Quality of Mercy,” one of Babylon 5’s most chaotic and thought-provoking season one episodes.

This week’s banter includes:
• The crew losing it over Centauri “anatomy” trivia and JMS’s fever-dream writing.
• Ali declaring herself an alien anatomy expert.
• Jenn connecting mercy, morality, and Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice.
• Gus insisting on the ethics of not whipping it out at the poker table.
• Jenny explaining the JMS lore behind mind wipes and space justice.
• Plus: June Lockhart, universal healthcare, and Londo’s questionable poker face.

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(00:50:56) Grey Council

Time rifts, shadowy wars, and Zathras the honey badger of space?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into the game-changing Babylon 5 episode “Babylon Squared.” We unravel the mystery of the vanished station, puzzle over the appearance of “Old Jeff,” and lose our collective minds over the arrival of Zathras.

Ali spins wild theories about humanity’s future evolution, Jenn weighs in on JMS’s knack for raising more questions than answers, and Gus insists Babylon 4 is the most important thing we’ve seen yet. Jenny connects the themes of sacrifice and destiny, and the whole crew debates whether Jeff Sinclair really is “the one.”

Along the way, we also wander into 2001: A Space Odyssey costume trivia, new merch ideas (Old Jeff seasoning, anyone?), and the possibility that the Minbari are just theater kids with triangles. 🌌

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Prophecy, politics, and a planet that’s alive?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into the conclusion of the Babylon 5 two-parter “A Voice in the Wilderness.” We unpack Draal’s sacrifice, Garibaldi’s bittersweet Mars subplot, and Londo’s surprising moment of heart.

Ali celebrates being right about Draal’s importance, Jenn digs into JMS’s fever-fueled writing process, and Gus notices how this episode sets up big mysteries for the future. Jenny connects the biblical references woven into the script, and the whole crew debates whether Jeff Sinclair is basically everyone’s husband at this point.

Along the way, we also wander into Mad Men parallels, a 911 meteor trailer, and some very strong opinions about Ohio. 🌌

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(01:16:07) The Grey Council

A mysterious planet with a deadly defense system, a rebellion on Mars, and a strange alien asking for help—just another day on Babylon 5! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus break down the epic two-parter, "A Voice in the Wilderness Part 1." Our screenwriters, Jenn and Ali, kick things off with a deep dive on TV writing, explaining the crucial difference between a hook and a cliffhanger. Ali and Gus have some wild theories, comparing the alien in the machine to Game of Thrones' Three-Eyed Raven. The whole crew unites for the "Peter Jurasik Love Hour," gushing over his masterful and hilarious performance as Londo Mollari. 


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Telepath breeding programs, Minbari funeral drama, and… Star Trek dolphins?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into the Babylon 5 classic “Legacies.” We untangle the politics of a missing Minbari war hero, debate whether Delenn’s miracle plan actually made sense, and explore how the episode sets up one of the show’s most important arcs.

Gus questions whether Babylon 5 needs a “no punching at the funeral” rule, Jenn gives us the inside scoop on legendary sci-fi writer D.C. Fontana’s fingerprints on this story, and Ali wonders if Alissa’s choices make her the “Oliver Twist of Babylon 5.” Jenny draws connections between the telepath plotline and the larger Psi Corps arc - plus, the whole crew gets sidetracked imagining dolphins running Starfleet. 🐬

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A motorcycle joyride through the station, Jeffrey Combs showing up as a surprisingly wholesome telepath, and Ivanova smashing up a bar like she’s in a Yakuza game?! 🏍️🧠🍷 Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali take on “Eyes” — and to everyone’s shock, Larry DiTillio redeems himself after TKO. This week’s spirited discussion includes:

• Gus cheering for “Jeff punching a Nazi” and dubbing this the true Ivana-sode.
• Jenn breaking down how JMS weaves fascism and civil liberties into serialized storytelling.
• Jenny sharing behind-the-scenes trivia about the not-so-subtle motorcycle “product placement” and Bill Mumy’s sneaky band reference.
• Ali gushing over telepaths and making wild theories about the Shadows, Vorlons, and missing Babylon stations.
• The crew bonding over Ivanova’s latent telepath foreshadowing, her dream sequence, and her absolute dominance in a bar fight.

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🕊️ Holy puns, a snail monster, and a very unlucky ghost ship -Jenny, Jenn, and first-timers Ali and Gus tackle “Grail,” one of Babylon 5’s quirkiest season one episodes. This week’s banter includes:

• Ali unleashing “holy snail” and other pun-ishment.
• Jenn on how the script hides info and lands its reveals.
• Gus proposing a new hobby: chatting with weird prospectors.
• Jenny with trivia on JMS’s last-minute additions and Aldous’s name.
• Sinclair’s seeker vibes, Jesuit jokes, and Minbari caste confusion.
• Plus: the Mary Celeste, Centauri budgets, Babylon 4 theories, and the eternal TKO debate.

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A boxing match so boring it was BANNED in the UK, Ivanova sits shiva for a complicated father, and the shocking revelation that this episode is just Top Gun in a blender? 🥊🕯️✈️ Jenny, Jenn, and first-timer Gus (with Ali away on assignment) team up to tackle "TKO." This week’s brutally honest discussion includes:

• Gus delivers a truly epic rant on why he "didn't give a flying f**k" about the alien boxing A-plot.
• Jenn gives a showrunner’s masterclass on "May Sweeps" and why "TKO" is a classic network "throwaway episode".
  
  
• Jenny reveals the dark and deeply personal history of JMS’s father that fueled his commitment to creating Ivanova's Jewish heritage.
  
  
  
  
• The team tries to make sense of the baffling "no humans allowed" rule and why a minor character is inexplicably named Caliban.
  
  
  
• We learn about the Warner Bros. scheduling mistake that aired this episode out of order, potentially weakening Ivanova's character arc for the season.
  
  

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A space genie with bad vibes, the Shadows finally emerge, and a debate over the future’s worst invention: the open-concept bathroom? 👽😈🚽 Jenny, Jenn, and first-timers Ali and Gus are joined by guest Ean to unpack "Signs and Portents," a massive turning point for Babylon 5. This week’s jam-packed discussion includes:

• Gus introduces the archaic verb "ensorcelled" to a baffled room.
• Jenn breaks down why "What do you want?" is both a screenwriting sin and a stroke of genius.
• Ali drops a bombshell prediction about Sinclair, Delenn, and a conveniently timed marriage reveal.
• We get a deep dive into JMS's surprising history with Christian communes and cults.
• Plus: The team discusses expensive CGI, the pains of 90s TV production, and Centauri hairline politics.

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llegal strikes, a slimy negotiator, and a sacred flower holding up the entire station—oh my! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, and Gus break down the incredibly relevant Babylon 5 episode “By Any Means Necessary.” We tackle the thorny politics of a full-blown labor strike and why this 90s sci-fi story hits differently for our Hollywood strike veteran hosts. Gus questions Commander Sinclair’s increasingly rebellious habit of “flouting the Senate” and theorizes when it will all come back to bite him. Jenn gives us the incredible behind-the-scenes story of how the episode's writer had to fight her own husband (JMS!) to get the job , and Jenny reveals how the petty conflict between Londo and G’Kar serves as a perfect microcosm of their entire arc. And of course, we all unite in our shared hatred for the galaxy's slimiest negotiator.






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Garibaldi's tragic past, a presidential conspiracy, and a whole lot of "laying pipe" - oh my! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down the Garibaldi-centric Babylon 5 episode, “Survivors.” We explore Garibaldi being framed for an assassination attempt, forcing him to confront his past and his struggle with addiction

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