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Best Story Wins
Column Five
109 episodes
3 days ago
Welcome to “Best Story Wins,” a podcast for marketing and branding professionals looking to unlock their growth potential. Hosted by Column Five—a B2B marketing agency that specializes in brand and content marketing for SaaS companies—each episode features insightful conversations with industry leaders who are winning customers’ hearts and minds by building world-class brands. 

Tune in to hear expert insights, hard-won lessons, and key strategies to take your own marketing efforts to the next level.
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Welcome to “Best Story Wins,” a podcast for marketing and branding professionals looking to unlock their growth potential. Hosted by Column Five—a B2B marketing agency that specializes in brand and content marketing for SaaS companies—each episode features insightful conversations with industry leaders who are winning customers’ hearts and minds by building world-class brands. 

Tune in to hear expert insights, hard-won lessons, and key strategies to take your own marketing efforts to the next level.
Show more...
Marketing
Business,
Careers,
Entrepreneurship
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SEO, AEO, and the Return of Good Marketing with Jenna Hannon of Hatter
Best Story Wins
50 minutes
1 month ago
SEO, AEO, and the Return of Good Marketing with Jenna Hannon of Hatter
Your brand isn’t losing to competitors, it’s getting ghosted by the algorithm. As AI eats search, the “spray and pray” content playbook turns invisible. Are you training the models…or training your team to burn cash?

This week, Jenna Hannon, Founder & CEO of Hatter, drops a State of the Union that B2B marketers need to hear: SEO isn’t dead, AEO (AI Engine Optimization) is here and lazy tactics are DOA. We unpack why LLMs reward actual marketing (crisp messaging, specific content, real PR) and punish AI-slop; how to merge SEO, AEO, and content into one motion instead of siloed teams; and why product marketing is the new growth core powering every channel.

We also get into:
  • SEO → AEO: Same inputs, new outputs and the extra layers that matter now.
  • Quality > quantity: Why “programmatic, no-human” content craters (and how Google/LLMs sniff it out).
  • Metrics that matter: Beyond traffic to AI visibility, context, and link-back citations that convert.
  • Org design for 2026: Product marketing as the engine; experts in the loop; PR that teaches LLMs.
Best Story Wins
Welcome to “Best Story Wins,” a podcast for marketing and branding professionals looking to unlock their growth potential. Hosted by Column Five—a B2B marketing agency that specializes in brand and content marketing for SaaS companies—each episode features insightful conversations with industry leaders who are winning customers’ hearts and minds by building world-class brands. 

Tune in to hear expert insights, hard-won lessons, and key strategies to take your own marketing efforts to the next level.