In honor of International Women’s Day, we bring you a special episode of the Beyond Listening Podcast. Today, we celebrate the power, resilience, and wisdom of women by hosting five extraordinary guests who have courageously walked their unique paths in the world. Each of these women brings a powerful story of leadership, perseverance, and strength.
Guests:
Dr. Mona Armijo (Florida, USA) – A trailblazer working with Military SEALs, one of the few women among these honorable men.
Mossy Kilcher (Alaska, USA) – The eldest daughter of the iconic homesteading family featured on Discovery Channel’s Alaska The Last Frontier.
Michelle Duval (Sydney, Australia) – Founder of Marlee, a pioneering global AI company.
Liesl Coleman (Oregon, USA) – Leader at The Curry Watershed Partnerships in Curry County Oregon.
Dr. Tjanara Goreng Goreng (Australia) – A First Nations Australian leader, joining from India, where she is engaged with a women’s university dedicated to UN peacekeeping efforts.
This episode explores the many facets of womanhood, identity, community, and the sacred connections that women forge. Our guests share their personal journeys, reflecting on resilience, courage, leadership, and the evolving roles of women across cultures. We also discuss the importance of psychological safety, inner strength, and the transformative power of feminine leadership in today’s world.
Join us in celebrating International Women’s Day by listening, sharing, and contributing to this vital conversation.
We invite you to be part of this global celebration by joining our free International Women’s Day online gathering on March 8th at 9 AM PST. Share your story, listen to others, and connect in a powerful community of women and allies.
Key Takeaways:
The energy within a circle of women is profoundly powerful.
Women often carry the weight of their communities and families.
Personal journeys are interconnected, shaping identities and experiences.
Spirituality can play a significant role in self-discovery and resilience.
Women’s voices and stories contribute to a larger, evolving narrative.
Connection to nature provides solace and a sense of belonging.
Sharing experiences empowers and uplifts others.
Diversity in women’s perspectives enriches collective wisdom.
Recognizing the sacredness of womanhood strengthens individual and communal identity.
Community support is essential for growth, healing, and transformation.
Links
Celebrating Women's Stories: A listening circle for International Women's Day Register here
Walking Wild on the Feather River; a retreat for women walking their path in the worldMore information here
Mossy Kilcher: Wikepedia and a short film on youtube with her
Michelle Duval: LInkedin. and her organization, Marlee website and you can see her on a previous episode of our podcast here
Liesl Coleman: Her bio on the website and the website of the organization she has run and built for the last 20 years or more, Curry Watershed Partnership
Dr Tjanara Goreng Goreng: LInkedin and her website here and you can see her on our podcast here
Dr Mona Armijo: LInkedin and an interview about her book here
In this episode, Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack dive into why they have chosen to do women and men focused leadership work this year.
From examining the dynamics of power and the challenges women face in leadership to the necessity of self-reflection and personal growth, this conversation sheds light on how both retreats foster personal development and empowerment. This conversation however isn’t just about retreats—it’s about embracing who you are, overcoming societal norms, and connecting with others in meaningful ways.
Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion on collaboration, courage, and the journey to empower oneself and others
In this chat around the fireside, Atz Kilcher shares his deep connection to music, nature, and the journey of self-acceptance. Reflecting on his childhood, he explores how the wilderness shaped his understanding of himself and the world around him. Atz reveals the therapeutic power of music and how returning to nature can help veterans and others find peace, purpose, and personal growth. Weaving stories of his time in Fox Canyon at the head of the Kachemak Bay in Alaska and the art of basket weaving, he illuminates how these practices connect us to nature and the wisdom of community, healing, and shared experiences.
November 2nd: Songs from the Wilderness
Topa Insitute, Ojai California
On November 2nd join Atz Kilcher for an unforgettable evening in the serene beauty of the Topa Topa Mountains. Celebrate the powerful journey of veterans healing through nature and music. Featuring performances by Atz Kilcher, Andrew Wiscombe, Stephen Covell, Kate, and Secily Anderson, this concert brings the stories and songs of veterans to life in a way that inspires, uplifts, and connects us all.
All proceeds from this event will support veterans' healing trips to Heroes Healing Homestead, a place where veterans connect with nature, each other, and themselves in the magical setting of Alaska’s Kachemak Bay. Help us give back to those who have served by supporting this incredible cause. Families welcome.
More Information and Buy Tickets here
Special Experiences:
In this heartfelt episode of Beyond Listening, we sit down with veteran and musician Andrew to explore his journey from the military to a powerful career in songwriting. Andrew shares his early roots in punk rock and country music, how music helped him cope with the aftermath of his military service, and the transformative experiences he’s had through the Heroes Healing Homestead initiative, co-hosted by Atz Kilcher and Operation Encore.
Andrew opens up about his time in the military, his struggle with PTSD, and how songwriting became an essential outlet for processing the trauma. He also discusses a profound revelation he had during a trip to the Heroes Healing Homestead in Alaska, a healing retreat for veterans. Andrew describes how this experience unlocked deep memories, leading him to confront past trauma and begin a journey of healing.
Through raw honesty, Andrew talks about the challenges of balancing a sensitive heart in a military environment, shedding the tough exterior, and reconnecting with his true self through music and nature. We also get a special treat as Andrew performs two of his songs, including the emotional "Alone with You" and the poignant "Working Man’s Mile," both of which speak to themes of resilience, authenticity, and finding peace in unexpected places.
We wrap up with a look ahead to the upcoming *Healing Heroes: Songs from the Wilderness* concert in Ojai, California, featuring Andrew, Atz Kilcher, and other talented musicians. Join us as we explore how nature, community, and music can create powerful healing experiences for veterans and beyond.
Show notes:
Learn more about the event: Healing Heroes: Songs from the Wilderness
Donate to the work of HHH and Open Circle Foundation
Learn more about Heroes Healing Homestead
In this episode, Adam and Miriam, co founders of Open Circle, dive deep into the complexities of guiding change, offering practical insights into both horizontal and vertical transformations. They emphasize the critical need for understanding and accepting change, while also exploring the common resistance humans face, often rooted in our fear of loss.
Throughout the conversation, they address the challenges individuals and organizations encounter when guiding change, from managing resistance to recognizing what is truly essential. Adam and Miriam reflect on how our evolutionary attachment to status and identity can make embracing change difficult, sometimes leading to anxiety, depression, or a lack of meaning.
Key Takeaways:
Change is constant, and learning to navigate it is crucial.
There are two types of change: horizontal (superficial) and vertical (deep, fundamental).
Resistance to change, rooted in fear of loss, can block growth and lead to anxiety and depression.
Nature teaches valuable lessons on cycles of life and interdependence, providing perspective on change.
Vulnerability and listening are key skills for effectively guiding others through transformation.
Leaders must reflect on their own biases and be open to learning from others.
Links
Vertical and Horizontal Change: article by Adam Ruumack
Open Circle Training: Guiding Change (October 2024)
Research Report: Positive Effects of time spent in nature
Research Report: Positive effect of Listening Circle and Mindfulness
Kiersten McCartney, “Coach K”, the program director and co-founder of Arena Adaptive, shares her journey and passion for engaging people with disabilities in exercise, fitness, and sport. She discusses the origins of her passion and the intentional community-building approach she takes in her work.
The conversation covers a wide range of topics related to adaptive fitness, healthcare challenges for people with disabilities, and the importance of inclusion and understanding. Coach K shares insights on her work, the impact of her programs, and the need for greater awareness and support for individuals with disabilities.
We also delve into the significance of treating people with disabilities as individuals and the value of adaptive sports. Coach K shares her experiences in creating inclusive fitness programs and starting an amputee soccer team.
Links:
Arena Adaptive Promotional Video
Get in contact with Coach K and Arena Adaptive:
In our latest episode, we dive deep into the fascinating world of nature and its profound effects on the brain with Amy McDonnell, a research fellow at the University of Utah Applied Cognition Lab.
Meet Our Guest: Amy McDonnell
Amy McDonnell brings a wealth of knowledge and experience from her background in neuroscience and environmental psychology. Her research at the University of Utah Applied Cognition Lab focuses on the intersection of wilderness therapy, neuroscience, and environmental neuroscience. Amy's quest to identify biomarkers and neural signatures of the nature experience is groundbreaking, providing valuable insights into how nature impacts our brain and overall well-being.
In this episode, we cover...
Environmental Neuroscience: This emerging field examines how different environments, particularly natural ones, influence brain activity and stress physiology. Amy delves into the importance of understanding these impacts to develop effective therapeutic interventions.
Biomarkers and Neural Signatures: The quest for identifying specific biomarkers and neural signatures associated with nature experiences is central to Amy's research. These findings could revolutionize how we approach mental health treatment and rehabilitation.
Spiritual and Mystical Aspects of Nature: Beyond the scientific, Amy explores the spiritual and mystical aspects of nature, discussing how these experiences can profoundly affect our psyche and emotional health.
Virtual Reality (VR) Nature: For individuals who cannot access nature due to various constraints, VR nature simulations offer a promising alternative. Amy talks about the potential of VR to replicate the multi-sensory experiences of nature and its applications in healthcare.
Challenges of Reintegration: After immersive nature experiences, reintegrating into urban environments can be challenging. Amy emphasizes the need for follow-through support to help individuals maintain the benefits gained from nature therapy.
Interdisciplinary Collaboration: Amy highlights the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration in nature and health research.
Show Notes
Open Circle Foundation: Link
Nature and Human Health Washington: Link
Nature and Human Health Utah: Link
REI Cooperative Action Fund: Link
University of Utah: @universityofutah
Amy McDonnell: @amymcd09
The Nature and Human Health Utah: @naturehumanhealthut
Contribute to the Open Circle Foundation and our ongoing research partnership with the Cognition Lab. We are together creating greater access to the transformative power of Nature for all.
Deciding how to Decide
This conversation between Open Circle Founders, Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack, explores the topic of decision-making and challenges the assumptions we have about how and why decisions are made. It discusses the definition of decisions and power, both at an individual and group level.
The conversation encourages questioning the structures and methods of decision-making and provides a framework for deciding how to decide. It explores different types of decision-making methods, factors to consider in decision-making, and the pitfalls and benefits of each method. The conversation also delves into the power dynamics and leadership styles involved in decision-making. It concludes by emphasizing the need for agile decision-making and the importance of transparency and trust in the decision-making process.
Takeaways
Decisions are actions that involve conscious or unconscious choices and have the power to impact our environment.
Individuals and groups make decisions, and there are various methods of decision-making, including command, voting, consult, consensus, and consent.
Factors to consider in decision-making include the level of impact, the number of people involved, and the time available.
Questioning the structures and methods of decision-making can lead to innovation and adaptation, but it also requires a mindset shift and may disrupt existing power dynamics.
Transparent decision-making processes and building trust are essential for effective decision-making in organizations.
Shownote Links
Link to Deciding how to decide model and Leadership Qualities Presentation
Purpose and values.
These simple words hold huge meaning, and potential impact, for how we act in the world.
Welcoming a kindred spirit this week, Adam and Brandon are joined by fellow wilderness expedition leader and founder of leadership development organization StoneWater, Phil Kornachuk.
Phil’s work is rooted in purpose and values, recognising its importance for his own development and his work mentoring, coaching and inspiring growth in individuals, leaders, sports teams and elite military units.
Reflecting on his journey, he reveals the steps he took to starting StoneWater, the lessons he learned from over two decades in the military, the ongoing lessons of business and the lifelong mission of cultivating moral authority.
How do we become optimistic about uncertainty?
The modern world can be scary. AI is making its mark, anxiety levels are rising, and leaders are faced with more uncertainty than ever.
Enter John Sanei: futures strategist, bestselling author, international keynote speaker, adviser to Fortune 100 companies, global expert at Singularity University and much more.
A tireless educator, John is passionate about using practical neuroscience to elevate consciousness and build a brighter tomorrow.
In the discussion, he outlines his story, dissects the meaning of purpose, reflects on AI, and casts a revealing light on the complexities, and potential, of the human race. Join us!
Welcome, for a fascinating insight into a truly singular human - international conflict mediator, college professor, senior consultant and facilitator for the Arbinger Institute, and NBA analyst for ESPN, Chad Ford.
Chad has experienced a lot personally and professionally, and pours these experiences into his writing - fuelling a dedication for helping humanity overcome our differences and reconcile together.
In the discussion with hosts Miriam and Brandon, we learn of his story, recounting the steps in life that led him to writing the vital conflict-management book Dangerous Love.
Amidst the recent escalation of violence and human suffering in the Middle East, Chad’s wisdom and experience working with both sides of the conflict are more necessary than ever.
Join us to uncover the beautiful fruits of this conversation: vulnerability, healing, and shared humanity.
True peace resolution is about “us”.
Please join us in reading this week’s introductory poem: On Love, by Kahlil Gibran.
Resiliency, compassion, community, safe haven, mentorship.
These are just some of the fruits of a powerful conversation shared with two committed and inspiring individuals, Coach Ellis and Coach Moore of More Than Fitness.
Founded in 2018, More Than Fitness seek to serve the young people of their local community through mindfulness and exercise - creating a program that pushes physical limits, shares meaningful discussion and forges positive life experiences.
Having recently partnered with WeAreOpenCircle on a wilderness expedition, Coach Ellis and Coach Moore share insights into their own journeys and the draw of the ‘purpose’ that they are dedicating their lives to.
With MTF now developing and delivering programs for adults and adjudicated youth, it’s not just about exercising - it’s about better habits, wiser decisions, serving the community and building trust.
Join us for a candid, thoughtful and inspiring conversation.
Support More than Fitness: https://www.morethan.fitness
Contribute to Listening Circle Training and Wilderness Programs for the MTF community: https://opencollective.com/the-open-circle-foundation
Enroll in Listening Circle training in Delaware with the MTF community: https://weareopencircle.com/new-events/delawareoctlisteningcircle
Welcome to a reflection on the process of change.
Three years after the pandemic, it’s important to take a step back and take stock.
What on earth just happened? And how can we move on?
Adam and Miriam fly solo again this week, sharing a candid discussion on how to reintegrate after disruption to our routines, philosophies, organizations and in the world as a whole.
They share their own experiences of evolution within We are Open Circle, and the key reintegration lessons of group wilderness retreats, to reveal the steps you can take to battle cynicism and create lasting change in your organization.
Experimentation, play, diversity, discovery… let’s dive in!
Integrity, capability, commitment.
Welcome to a rounded reflection on the role of trust within our communities, organizations and in society as a whole.
Trust is a practice, not a skill - a lifelong process of evaluation and maintenance.
Sharing reflections on the ‘three kinds of trust’ and the cyclical parallels of our professional lives and the natural world, today’s discussion reveals the inner tenets of the We are Open Circle methodology.
Join us, as hosts Adam and Miriam share experiences from their careers educating and developing leaders - shining a light on the intrinsic need for trust in individuals, values and systems.
We are all one human tribe, travelling on the journey of life together.
This message reveals itself as central to today’s discussion between Adam, Brandon Harding and guest Mike Waldron, founder of 23rd Veteran.
Speaking candidly on his own experiences as a young adult in the Marine Corps, Mike reveals the scale of the difficulty he experienced when re-integrating into society, his journey toward hope and the calling he answered in setting up the not-for-profit organisation and sharing his methodology with both veterans and civilians alike.
In outlining the 14-week 23rd Veteran process, Mike reveals how immersive experiences in nature encourage teamwork, camaraderie and a vulnerability to share our stories, connecting with each other and with ourselves - rediscovering our sense of tribe.
Join us to learn about his empowering and important work, bettering the lives of veterans across America.
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Mike Waldron served in the Marine Corps Infantry during the initial invasion into Iraq. Five years later, Mike began to suffer from combat-related anxiety, panic attacks, and depression which left him feeling that death was a better option than life.
After pulling out of his severe symptoms of combat stress, Mike returned to college at Purdue University to grow his skills in entrepreneurship so that he could help other veterans in their battle against combat stress. He now leads 23rd Veteran, a nonprofit organization reconditioning our veterans to live more comfortably and successfully in the civilian world.
In recent years, Mike has provided education on the science and evolution theory behind lack of happiness to mental health conferences, respected universities, military units, fortune 100 companies, and our representatives in U.S. Congress. Becuase of his creativity and efforts in growing unique and impactful transition programs, the Institute for Veteran and Military Families awarded 23rd Veteran the U.S. “Best Venture Impacting Veterans”.
Joining us for a moving discussion on race, class and the power of education is Roblin Webb, Founder and CEO at Freedom Prep School in Tennessee.
Roblin J. Webb, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Freedom Prep Charter Schools, has dedicated her life’s work to striving for equality for all people.
A passionate advocate for civil rights, Roblin outlines her definition of the movement - and reveals her inspiring journey from university graduate, to attorney, to becoming a tireless educator serving her community and boosting the possibilities for children of colour.
Through reflection on her path and discussion of her motivations and thoughts on where we need to do better, Roblin shares movingly on her connection to her ancestry - and why she seeks to change the status quo, for the benefit of each and every child who passes through her school.
Ms. Webb founded Freedom Prep in the Fall of 2009 with a class of approximately 100 6th graders. Freedom Prep has now grown to five schools, elementary, middle, and high, serving over 2,300 students in Southwest Memphis.
Outdoors is where the magic happens.
Today we welcome Dustin Diefenderfer, the founder of MTNTough Fitness Labs.
A passionate advocate for the power of the outdoors to renew and develop our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual wellbeing, our discussion with Dustin reveals a passion for transforming lives.
He shares the life experiences that showed the path to founding the company in 2016, unveiling a consistent theme of entrepreneurship as a journey - one that often mimics the principles and philosophies of backcountry pursuits.
Join us as we discover Dustin’s drive for giving back to the community and the power of teamwork in the great outdoors.
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“There is wellness to be found in the wild.”
Our circle today sees hosts Adam and Miriam joined by Brandon Harding, our Wilderness program director.
With a series of co-facilitated wilderness trips planned for 2023 and 2024, today’s conversation gives an insight into the topics, themes and discussion to be covered.
Each of our speakers share candidly their own pivotal experiences in nature, comparing their experiences in military and non-military contexts - uncovering a shared theme of group connection, individual roles and guidance.
Tune in to join a reflection on the ability of the wilderness to facilitate organic reflection and conversation: the importance of nature during periods of transition and change.
Community is build on collaboration, creativity and trust.
Our guest today is Mark Matzeldelaflor, a former Navy Seal and founder of Guardian Grange, a veteran-powered regenerative agriculture and healing network.
He shares thoughts from his journey, unfolding a life which has navigated themes of organisation, disorder and trauma.
Reflecting on how life in the military posed challenges for re-integrating with ‘reality’, he speaks candidly on the impact of trauma in his community - underlining his passion and motivation for enriching the land and the lives of veterans through the work of Guardian Grange.
Intersectionality, nuance, integrity, compassion, presence.
These key tenets rise to the surface in our conversation with dear friend Pranidhi Varshney.
The founder of Yoga Shala West, a community-supported Ashtanga Yoga studio in West LA, Pranidhi shares experiences from her personal life, her yoga practice and her quest for creating more nuanced relationships with our lives and each other.
Touching on motherhood, shared culture, the principles of Ashtanga, ‘resisting with compassion’ and being in the present moment - our conversation unfurls deep truths about the power of sharing our voices with the world.