Beyond the Church – S2E7: What’s the Role of Church Leaders?
Hot Topic: How do we deal with church transition and change?
Church leaders shape culture, discipleship, and day-to-day faith—but what exactly is their role? In this episode, Pam Clark, Kerry A. Clark, and Jessica Anderson dig into Scripture and real life to unpack what healthy leadership looks like, why we sometimes put pastors on pedestals, and how to recognize leaders as gifts designed to equip us—not replace God in our lives.
Then we shift to the Hot Topic: church transition. From pastoral changes to shifting models (multi-site, campus pastors, online), how do you process big changes without losing heart—or your footing? We talk maturity, unity, love over gossip, and practical ways to move forward when things feel uncertain.
What you’ll hear
Key moments (no spoilers)
Scripture references
This week’s action step
Find and help someone who’s “lost”—not salvation-lost, but discouraged, off-track, or low on motivation. Lend your strength and help them get back to being who God made them to be.
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Do you think your church’s leaders are equipping you for your God-given work? How have you handled a big transition at church? Drop your thoughts below—let’s learn from each other.
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Beyond the Church – S2E6: Bible Study Reengagement
Hot Topic: Keeping the Momentum for Your Own Personal Bible Study
In this episode, we're discussing Bible Study Re-engagement—because let’s be real, a little bit of Bible just once on Sunday is not enough! The Bible holds wisdom for everything—there’s nothing under the sun that isn’t addressed in its pages.
We’ll talk about the value of reading and studying God’s Word with others, why finding a “hot” discovery in Scripture can reignite your passion, and how to keep that fire burning in your personal study time.
Hot Topic Highlight: Keeping the Momentum for Your Own Personal Bible Study – practical ways to stay engaged and inspired day after day.
BTC Action: This week, find a passage or statement from your reading that inspires you—then share it with someone without revealing its source. Let the conversation spark curiosity and connection.
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Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
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Beyond the Church – S2E5: When Your Blessing Becomes a Curse
Hot Topic: Should You Get Baptized as a Kid? Is It Okay to Do It Again as an Adult?
In this episode, we explore the surprising flip side of favor—when your blessing becomes a curse. We ask the tough but necessary questions:
* What exactly is a blessing?
* How does something God gives for good end up weighing us down?
* And how do we recognize when the very thing we prayed for is now keeping us from growth?
Then in our Hot Topic, we wade into deeper waters—literally:
Should you get baptized as a kid?
And if you did, is it okay to get baptized again as an adult?
We unpack the meaning, purpose, and timing of baptism and whether doing it more than once is a spiritual reset or religious overkill.
Whether you’ve been wrestling with spiritual identity or just wondering how your childhood faith decisions hold up today—this episode is for you.
🎧 Listen now and join the conversation that goes Beyond the Church.
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Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
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Beyond the Church - S2E4: Forgiveness
Hot Topic: Christians Going to Therapy
"In order to go beyond the church, you must have the church within you."
Forgiveness is one of the most challenging yet essential aspects of the Christian journey. In this episode of Beyond the Church, we explore what forgiveness truly means, the challenges we face in the process, and how our faith influences our ability to let go of past hurts.
Key Questions Explored:
- How do I forgive those who have hurt me?
- Does the level of hurt impact how we forgive?
- What does true forgiveness look like in action?
Pamela shares a touching personal story about her father’s act of forgiveness toward a family member, illustrating the power of grace in even the hardest situations.
🔥 Hot Topic: Should Christians Go to Therapy?
There is often debate within the church about whether seeking therapy aligns with faith. Some believe it's unnecessary, while others see therapy as a valuable tool that God can use for healing. In this discussion, we will explore how faith and professional help can coexist.
Join us for this powerful conversation as we explore the journey of forgiveness and the role of mental health in our spiritual growth.
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#Forgiveness #Grace #Help #Therapy #Unforgiveable #BeyondTheChurch #Faith #Hurts #Pain #Emotional #ChurchWithinYou #KerryAClark
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Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
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Beyond the Church | S2E3: Finding a Church
In this episode of Beyond the Church, we tackle the important question: How do you find the right church? From navigating the search process to understanding what it truly means to be part of the body of Christ, we break down key considerations, including:
Hot Topic: Should we go back to bringing our physical Bibles to church?
Are you a digital Bible reader, or do you prefer flipping through the pages of a physical one? We discuss whether it’s time to unplug and go back to the old-school way.
Tune in for an insightful conversation that challenges how we approach church and community and that takes you "beyond the church."
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Speakers:
Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/Beyond.the.Church
TWITTER: https://twitter.com/beyondthechurch
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_church
YOUTUBE: https://youtube.beyondthechurch.net
Beyond the Church - S2E2: The Music We Listen To
Hot Topic: Time In The Presence Of God | Should We Have Special Church Services (Like Revival Nights) More Often?
🎧 In this episode of Beyond the Church, we dive into a thought-provoking discussion on The Music We Listen To. How does music shape our faith, and is it a bad thing for Christians to listen to secular (aka worldly) music? We explore the power of lyrics, the influence of artists, and what it truly means to take music beyond the church.
Key topics include:
🎵 How Do We Take Music Beyond The Church?
🎵 Does the music we consume reflect our hearts?
🎵 Should we be cautious about secular appearances?
🎵 The impact of artists and the giftings of the artists
🎵 What are we feeding our spirit through what we listen to?
🔥 Hot Topic: Should We Have Special Church Services (Like Revival Nights) More Often?
We also discuss the importance of spending intentional time in God's presence and whether churches should hold revival-style services more frequently.
🎶 BTC Action: Share a powerful song that represents the church within you—something that could inspire and uplift someone today!
Join the conversation, and let’s go beyond the church!
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#FaithAndMusic #ChristianMusic #SecularMusic #MusicAndFaith #ShouldChristiansListenToSecularMusic #ChristianMusicVsSecularMusic #MusicAndSpirituality #GuardYourHeart #RevivalNights #TimeInGodsPresence #ChurchRevival #DeepWorship #SpiritualAwakening #ChurchServices
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Speakers:
Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
Tyler Anderson
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Beyond the Church - S2E1: When In Doubt
Hot Topic: Moral Failures in the Church – Christian Leaders Stepping Down
Tune in as we tackle questions of doubt, faith, and navigating the struggles within the church.
Hot Topic: Moral Failures in the Church – Christian Leaders Stepping Down
How should we respond when church leaders fail in moral integrity? What impact do these situations have on our faith and trust in spiritual leadership? We explore the implications and provide guidance on navigating this challenging topic.
Faith and Doubt:
Can faith and doubt coexist? What does it mean to have doubts as a believer?
In this episode, we will discuss:
"Faith is the ability to get beyond the normal doubts of life."
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Speakers:
Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
FACEBOOK: facebook.com/Beyond.the.Church
TWITTER: twitter.com/beyondthechurch
INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/beyond_the_church
YOUTUBE: youtube.beyondthechurch.net
Beyond the Church - S1E4: Church Everywhere Hot Topic: Can Church Feel Lonely? In this episode, we’re exploring the transformative idea of Church Everywhere! 🌍 From social gatherings to public spaces, we're diving into what it means to take church beyond the four walls. This episode includes topics such as include: ⛪️ The Church at the Party – How faith shows up in celebrations 🚶♂️ The Church Out and About – Living your beliefs in everyday life 🛍️ The Church in the Marketplace – Bringing spiritual principles to the workplace and beyond The hot topic for this episode is Can Church Feel Lonely? We’re tackling a tough but important question: why do some people feel isolated within their church communities, and what can we do about it? 🤔 Join us for thought-provoking discussions, practical insights, and real stories that inspire. Let’s redefine how and where we experience church together! 💬 We’d love to hear from you! How do you take "the church within you" into daily life? Have you ever felt lonely in church? Share your thoughts in the comments below! 🔔 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell to stay updated on future episodes. #ChurchEverywhere #BeyondTheChurch #FaithInAction #LonelyInChurch #ChristianLiving Subscribe to our channel using this link: youtube.com/c/KerryAClark #BeyondTheChurch #FaithEveryday #CommunityBuilding #KerryAClark *All images used by permission of Unsplash.com. *Music licensed and used by permission of Pond5.com. Speakers: Kerry A. Clark Pamela Clark Jessica Anderson beyondthechurch.net FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/Beyond.the.Church TWITTER: https://x.com/Church_In_You INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_church YOUTUBE: https://youtube.beyondthechurch.net
Beyond the Church - S1E3: Church Attendance
Christians and Secular Partnerships
In Episode 3 of Beyond the Church, we discuss the age-old topic that has forever impacted the church community: Church Attendance. Should we attend church every Sunday, and is it a sin not to go to church? We will examine questions such as:
- Why do we go to church?
- Does it matter what church?
- Should I abandon my old church?
This episode's "Hot Topic" is "Christians and Secular Partnerships." Should believers partner with non-Christians? Jesus’ approach might surprise you—He didn’t avoid engaging with the secular world. In this episode, we unpack Jesus’ choices and how His example can guide us today.
Whether you’re questioning church attendance, curious about faith, or exploring the role of secular connections in Christian life, this episode is for you! Join us for honest conversations and fresh perspectives on living out the church within you.
Don't forget to Like 👍, Comment 💬, and Subscribe 🔔 to stay updated with 'Beyond the Church' as we take conversations further than ever!
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#BeyondTheChurch #ChurchAttendance #ChristianFaith #SecularPartnerships #FaithInAction #KerryAClark
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Speakers:
Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
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TWITTER: https://x.com/Church_In_You
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YOUTUBE: https://youtube.beyondthechurch.net
Beyond the Church - S1 Bonus Episode 2: The Great Halloween Debate
Should We Participate in Halloween?
This special bonus episode discusses what Jessica calls "The Great Halloween Debate." Are we missing the point about Halloween in our faith discussions? Kerry reveals a problem with Halloween that isn’t what you might expect.
Join us as we take a deeper look into the holiday, exploring questions like:
Pamela’s Favorite Halloween Candy: Which candy tops Pamela's list?
Going Beyond the Church: How can we bring a fresh perspective to Halloween from a faith perspective?
Transforming Halloween: Discover how to turn past Halloween experiences into something meaningful.
Forced Participation? What's the best way to respond to Halloween?
Dressing Up: Does dressing up invite something negative into our lives?
Halloween a Holiday: In what new way can you think of Halloween?
Turning the Lights On: Why do we often keep the lights off on Halloween when we're meant to shine?
Let’s go beyond the traditions and see how we can reframe Halloween in a way that aligns with living out the Church in us. Are we ready to make a shift?
Don't forget to Like 👍, Comment 💬, and Subscribe 🔔 to stay updated with 'Beyond the Church' as we take conversations further than ever!
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Speakers:
Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
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TWITTER: x.com/Church_In_You
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YOUTUBE: youtube.beyondthechurch.net
Beyond the Church - S1 Bonus Episode 1: Beyond the Beef
Navigating Conflict in Faith
In this bonus episode of Beyond the Church, we discuss a heated social media exchange between two modern-day prophets that’s got the church community buzzing. We unpack what it means to “beef” in today’s world, explore the role and how we identify with present-day prophets, and discuss how to live out the church within us when we encounter controversies like these. How should we respond when faith leaders clash publicly? Tune in as we break it all down and reflect on how to keep our focus on the true mission of the church and go beyond the church.
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Speakers:
Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
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FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/Beyond.the.Church
TWITTER: https://x.com/Church_In_You
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_church
YOUTUBE: https://youtube.beyondthechurch.net
Beyond the Church - S1E2: Let's Talk Church
Church Hurt
In this episode, we're getting into the nitty-gritty of church stuff. What (even) is the church? Are you the church? And when did you realize that? These questions are super important for understanding our place in faith. If you need help with the answers, this podcast is for you. I often revisit a message called "I Didn't Know I Was Me," which always reminds me how crucial it is to know who we were meant to be. Similarly, there are things we've got to wrap our heads around to really live out our faith, and that's what this episode is all about. We're talking about "the church."
We're also discussing a touchy but essential topic: "church hurt." Without giving too much away, if you or someone you know has experienced hurt within the church, you'll want to hear what we have to say.
Check out "Let's Talk Church" to explore the topics of church, identity, and healing from past hurts. It's a journey you definitely won't want to miss!
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Kerry A. Clark
Pamela Clark
Jessica Anderson
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Join us for an exciting journey with the first episode of "Beyond the Church: Living Out The Church in You." In this exciting debut, we will explore the true meaning of living out the church in our everyday lives. Get prepared for:
1. Engaging conversations on the start and importance of this groundbreaking podcast.
2. Honest dialogues exploring the ups and downs of our spiritual journeys.
3. Discovering new ways to go beyond church as we know it and bringing this newfound realization into our everyday experiences.
4. An illuminating comparison of the Church to a hospital, unlocking the potential of this powerful metaphor.
Find transformative ways to live out your church experience in the real world. Each episode offers a deep dive into an important topic and a lively discussion on popular issues. References:
[1] Genesis 12:2 ESV, Bible.com, accessed August 26, 2024, https://www.bible.com/bible/59/GEN.12.2 "And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing."
[2] Jeremiah 1:7, Bible.com, accessed August 26, 2024, https://www.bible.com/bible/116/JER.1.7 "The Lord replied, “Don’t say, ‘I’m too young,’ for you must go wherever I send you and say whatever I tell you."
[3] 1 Peter 4:10 NLT, Bible.com, accessed August 27, 2024, https://www.bible.com/bible/116/1PE.4.10.NLT "God has given each of you a gift from his great variety of spiritual gifts. Use them well to serve one another."
[4] Luke 9:23-24 NLT, Bible.com, accessed August 27, 2024, https://www.bible.com/bible/116/luk.9.23-24.nlt Then he said to the crowd, “If any of you wants to be my follower, you must give up your own way, take up your cross daily, and follow me. If you try to hang on to your life, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for my sake, you will save it.
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