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Beyond the Resume
Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker
104 episodes
1 day ago
Co-hosted by industry veterans, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, the weekly Beyond the Resume Podcast features interviews with some of the best known real estate experts in the U.S. By exploring how they built their successful careers and the impact they have made to the communities around them we hope to educate and inspire anyone building or thinking of building a career in real estate. Join us as we go Beyond the Resume.
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Co-hosted by industry veterans, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, the weekly Beyond the Resume Podcast features interviews with some of the best known real estate experts in the U.S. By exploring how they built their successful careers and the impact they have made to the communities around them we hope to educate and inspire anyone building or thinking of building a career in real estate. Join us as we go Beyond the Resume.
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Beyond the Resume with Carl Shannon (Gratitude Throwback Series)
Beyond the Resume
29 minutes 15 seconds
1 week ago
Beyond the Resume with Carl Shannon (Gratitude Throwback Series)

In this Gratitude Throwback episode of Beyond the Resume, host Lisa Flicker sits down with Carl Shannon, who spent 26 impactful years at Tishman Speyer before shifting his focus to teaching, civic engagement, and giving back to the San Francisco community. Carl reflects on the unexpected breaks that shaped his career, the mentors who guided him, and the philosophy that kept him grounded through economic cycles and major development projects.


They discuss serendipity, authenticity, long-term commitment, and why gratitude is a crucial professional skill — especially for young people entering real estate, development, or any career where relationships matter. Carl also shares insights on today’s market cycles, how to build a meaningful career, and why stepping into a life of service is his next chapter.


Chapters


(02:15) The Serendipity of Career Breaks – A chance meeting at Salomon Brothers leads to a pivotal opportunity and launches Carl into real estate.


(06:36) Early Lessons & Advice for Emerging Professionals – Be flexible, choose people over prestige, and be ready to “dig ditches” on day one.


(09:55) Why Loyalty Matters More Than Job-Hopping – Carl explains how long-term commitment led to deeper skills, trust, and opportunities.


(13:08) Cycles, Setbacks & Career Pivots – What he learned navigating downturns, including the early ’90s when development halted.


(15:19) The Big Reveal: Retirement & Reinvention – Carl opens up about leaving Tishman Speyer, his love for San Francisco, and redefining purpose.


(21:19) The Future of Office & Housing Development – A grounded look at where the market is headed and why housing demand will persist.


(24:51) Legacy Projects, Mentorship & Building Teams – From Mission Rock to assembling diverse teams, Carl reflects on the work that mattered most.


YouTube: https://youtu.be/qMSizzGgsWM

Spotify: https://bit.ly/beyondtheresume-spotify

Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3I3nkG9

Beyond the Resume
Co-hosted by industry veterans, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, the weekly Beyond the Resume Podcast features interviews with some of the best known real estate experts in the U.S. By exploring how they built their successful careers and the impact they have made to the communities around them we hope to educate and inspire anyone building or thinking of building a career in real estate. Join us as we go Beyond the Resume.