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Breaking Barriers
Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington
100 episodes
4 days ago
We’re here to help pastors and churches grow so that they can go. Churches can grow without going, but they can’t go without growing. Do you ever feel like church growth and sending is an uphill battle? You’re not alone, many leaders face common barriers that hinder mission success. At Breaking Barriers, we understand these challenges because we’ve been there. Now, we are on a mission to guide churches and leaders like you with Biblical strategies to help your church grow to go. Join Pastors Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington from Mercy Hill Church in Greensboro, NC.
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We’re here to help pastors and churches grow so that they can go. Churches can grow without going, but they can’t go without growing. Do you ever feel like church growth and sending is an uphill battle? You’re not alone, many leaders face common barriers that hinder mission success. At Breaking Barriers, we understand these challenges because we’ve been there. Now, we are on a mission to guide churches and leaders like you with Biblical strategies to help your church grow to go. Join Pastors Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington from Mercy Hill Church in Greensboro, NC.
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Breaking Barriers
E97 - How to Execute on Big Days

Learn how to execute successful big days at your church with practical project management strategies. In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we dive deep into the execution side of church event planning—from clarifying vision and setting goals to using RACI charts, building accountability culture, and managing teams effectively. Whether you're planning Christmas services, Easter celebrations, or other major church events, discover proven systems for keeping everyone aligned, avoiding common pitfalls, and creating momentum through strong execution.


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6 days ago
44 minutes 29 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E96 - Community Ministry | Adoption & Foster Care

What happens when a pastor and his wife adopt a child with Down syndrome—and it transforms their entire church? Andrew and Anna Hopper share their adoption journey with daughter Faith Anne, the challenges of special needs parenting, and how Mercy Hill Church built a foster care and adoption ministry that mobilized 200+ families. But here's the key insight: they discuss how churches need to find the community ministry lane that resonates with their unique heart and calling—not just copy what others are doing. For Mercy Hill, it was adoption and foster care. For your church, it might be veterans, addiction recovery, or another form of caring for the vulnerable. This honest conversation offers biblical wisdom on orphan care, practical guidance for finding your church's ministry sweet spot, and an inspiring vision for how authentic passion creates lasting kingdom impact. Discover why adoption is more than adding to your family—it's a powerful testimony of the gospel to a watching world.


Chosen Book: www.andrewphopper.com/chosen




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1 week ago
35 minutes 37 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E95 - Baptisms on Big Days

What if you could plan baptisms in a way that actually creates momentum in your church? In this episode, we talk about the "big days" strategy: identifying your church's highest attendance weekends (Easter, Christmas, back-to-school) and scheduling baptisms around those moments. You'll see why putting baptisms on display during peak attendance builds a culture of obedience, inspires life change, and shows that your church growth isn't just about filling seats but making real disciples.

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2 weeks ago
29 minutes 41 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E94 - 5 Ways to Lead Your Church In Biblical Generosity | End of Year Giving

Struggling to talk about money and generosity with your church? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we explore five essential principles that help pastors authentically lead their congregation in biblical giving. Learn why generosity is one of the most powerful discipleship tools available, how to shift from wanting something FROM people to FOR people, and practical ways to teach tithing and first fruits giving. Whether you're preparing for end-of-year giving campaigns or building a year-round culture of generosity, this conversation covers the heart issues, theological foundations, and leadership practices that make discussing money feel natural and transformational.

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3 weeks ago
41 minutes 47 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E93 - From Community Ministry to the Gospel: Connecting Adoption & Foster Care to Church Mission

Many churches struggle with community ministry that feels disconnected from making disciples. In this episode, we break down how adoption and foster care ministry serves as a powerful evangelistic tool—not just a "feel good" initiative. From reaching biological parents to discipling children in Christian homes, Pastor Andrew and Pastor Landon share practical insights from helping 200+ families engage in foster care and adoption. Plus: why knowing your church's unique gifts matters more than copying another church's model. Perfect for pastors wanting mission-aligned community impact.


Chosen Book: andrewphopper.com/chosen



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1 month ago
32 minutes 42 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E92 - Execution Over Theory: How to Actually Make Disciples in Your Church

Most churches have solid theology about discipleship but still struggle to make disciples. Why? Because good theology ALONE doesn't lead to good discipleship, relentless execution on good theology does. In this episode, Pastor Bobby breaks down the critical difference between discipleship theory and discipleship practice, using Acts 2 as a framework. Alignment matters more than you think. Learn how to avoid "cashing out" your momentum, and why the "day by day" execution is where most churches fail. If your church has tried multiple discipleship models without seeing results, this conversation will challenge how you think about making disciples.


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1 month ago
32 minutes 25 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E91 - Debunking Church Growth Myths

The anti-church growth movement is filled with myths that hold churches back from their mission. Can a church grow large and still disciple deeply? Are numeric goals unspiritual? Does multi-site ministry prevent real shepherding? We're debunking these common objections and showing why mission-focused church growth honors both the Great Commission and biblical discipleship. Join us for an honest conversation about what Scripture really teaches about growing and tending the flock.


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1 month ago
31 minutes 40 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E90 - End of Year Giving Plan: Vision Casting, Storytelling & Discipleship Tips for Pastors

Want to crush your end-of-year church giving campaign with proven strategies that grow both your church's mission and your congregation's hearts? In this episode, we walk pastors through a framework for year-end generosity initiatives, covering everything from pre-planning in September to execution through December. Learn why December giving naturally increases and how to strategically leverage this momentum. We discuss the critical "why" behind generosity campaigns—it's about discipleship first, budget second. Get practical insights on packaging your vision, telling compelling stories, setting up remembrance stones of God's faithfulness, and communicating effectively with different groups of people.


Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

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1 month ago
43 minutes 2 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E89 - Corporate Discipleship VS Individual Pathways (2)

****Spotify keeps removing episodes due to the music in the PreRoll Bumper (Even though we have the license to use it), so for now, we're uploading episodes without the Bumper until we can get it resolved.***


Should your church focus on individual discipleship plans or corporate pathways? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, Pastor Bobby and Pastor Andrew tackle a listener's question about why Mercy Hill Church chose a church-wide discipleship pathway over individualized plans. Discover the 5 reasons behind their Acts 2 "flywheel" approach (Gather, Group, Give, Go), why simplicity beats complexity in discipleship, and how to align your church's front-stage and back-stage conversations. Perfect for pastors, church leaders, and ministry teams wrestling with discipleship strategy, church growth, and creating sustainable pathways for spiritual formation.

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2 months ago
40 minutes 21 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E89 - Corporate Discipleship VS Individual Pathways

Should your church focus on individual discipleship plans or corporate pathways? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, Pastor Bobby and Pastor Andrew tackle a listener's question about why Mercy Hill Church chose a church-wide discipleship pathway over individualized plans. Discover the 5 reasons behind their Acts 2 "flywheel" approach (Gather, Group, Give, Go), why simplicity beats complexity in discipleship, and how to align your church's front-stage and back-stage conversations. Perfect for pastors, church leaders, and ministry teams wrestling with discipleship strategy, church growth, and creating sustainable pathways for spiritual formation.


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2 months ago
40 minutes 36 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E88 - Ben Tugwell | The Weight of Pastoral Ministry (Part 2)

****Spotify keeps removing episodes due to the music in the PreRoll Bumper (Even though we have the license to use it), so for now, we're uploading episodes without the Bumper until we can get it resolved.***


PART 2: What does pastoral ministry really cost? Not just your time—but your emotions, your body, and your soul?

Former lead pastor Ben Tugwell planted and grew Integrity Church for over 15 years. He had coaches, healthy boundaries, took time off, and did "all the right things." Yet six months after transitioning out of vocational ministry, he's still discovering just how much the role affected him.

In this honest conversation, Ben breaks down the "relational tightrope" pastors walk every Sunday—navigating people in crisis, unrepentant sin, disgruntled members, and hundreds of heartbreaking situations that pile up over years. He shares why even healthy pastors carry an unavoidable weight, and how emotional intelligence and self-awareness are critical for long-term ministry effectiveness.


Ben's Coaching Program: ⁠⁠Citizenscoaching.com

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2 months ago
30 minutes 8 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E87 - Ben Tugwell | The Weight of Pastoral Ministry (Part 1)

What does pastoral ministry really cost? Not just your time—but your emotions, your body, and your soul?

Former lead pastor Ben Tugwell planted and grew Integrity Church for over 15 years. He had coaches, healthy boundaries, took time off, and did "all the right things." Yet six months after transitioning out of vocational ministry, he's still discovering just how much the role affected him.

In this honest conversation, Ben breaks down the "relational tightrope" pastors walk every Sunday—navigating people in crisis, unrepentant sin, disgruntled members, and hundreds of heartbreaking situations that pile up over years. He shares why even healthy pastors carry an unavoidable weight, and how emotional intelligence and self-awareness are critical for long-term ministry effectiveness.


Ben's Coaching Program: Citizenscoaching.com

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2 months ago
21 minutes 55 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E86 - The Edgy Side of Wise | 4 Key Takeaways

Are you playing it too safe in your church leadership? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we explore the concept of living on the "edgy side of wise"—taking calculated risks that honor God without crossing into foolishness. Discover practical strategies for risk-taking in four critical areas. Learn why preparing the jars before the miracle matters, how to invest in growth when you don't have all the resources, and why stewardship might mean sending rather than just saving.


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2 months ago
36 minutes 17 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E86 - The Edgy Side of Wise | 4 Key Takeaways

Are you playing it too safe in your church leadership? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we explore the concept of living on the "edgy side of wise"—taking calculated risks that honor God without crossing into foolishness. Discover practical strategies for risk-taking in four critical areas. Learn why preparing the jars before the miracle matters, how to invest in growth when you don't have all the resources, and why stewardship might mean sending rather than just saving.


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2 months ago
36 minutes 17 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E85 - The Multisite Playbook - The Why, Where, When, and Who of Multisite Church

The Why, Where, When, and Who of Multisite Church

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3 months ago
27 minutes 43 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E84 - 6 Marks of Non-Growing Churches

Discover the 6 most common reasons churches plateau and stop growing. In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we explore why many faithful, spiritually deep churches remain stuck... from policy paralysis and lack of clear vision to being personality-driven instead of process-driven. Learn practical strategies to overcome growth barriers.


Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conference

Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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3 months ago
33 minutes 5 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E83 - Lessons From a Pastors Wife | Andrew & Anna Hopper

What does it really look like to be a pastor's wife? Not the Pinterest-perfect version—the real, messy, beautiful reality. Anna pulls back the curtain on 20 years of ministry life, from church planting with toddlers to navigating special needs adoption while her husband leads a growing church. She tackles the hard questions: How do you keep your identity when you're known as "the pastor's wife"? What do you do when you can't say yes to everything? How do you find joy when ministry demands feel overwhelming? Discovering freedom in your calling, serving from your actual gifts, and supporting your pastor husband without losing yourself. If you're a pastor's wife feeling stuck, a pastor wanting to set your wife up for success, or a church leader wondering how this all works, this conversation is for you.Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conferenceWebsite: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriersFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriersInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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3 months ago
35 minutes 14 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E82 - How Multi-Site and Church Plants Serve Different Kingdom Purposes (Part 2)

Part 2 of the conversation around church planting vs multisite church: Are multi-site campuses and church plants really the same thing? Pastor Andrew and Pastor Jonathan Yarborough dive deep into the crucial differences between campus planting and church planting strategies. Using the starfish vs spider analogy, they explain the critical differences with a "both, and" mindset, not an "either, or"; and the "magnet effect" that keeps churches from multiplying.


Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conference

Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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3 months ago
29 minutes 37 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E81 - How Multi-Site and Church Plants Serve Different Kingdom Purposes (Part 1)

What's the difference between launching a multi-site campus and planting a church? We explore why we believe multi-site campuses serve as growth strategies while church plants function as multiplication strategies [unSeminary], and why treating them as identical could limit your church's long-term kingdom legacy. We look at the "multiply everything" principle and how it prepares churches for both campus expansion and church planting success. Perfect for pastors, church planters, and ministry leaders navigating growth and multiplication strategies.


  • Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conference
  • Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠
  • Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers
  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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3 months ago
18 minutes 8 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E80 - God's Faithfulness, Our Excuses

What do you do when God calls you to something that scares you? Every church leader faces moments when fear, excuses, and negativity create artificial barriers to growth and ministry. Today, Pastor Andrew looks at Moses' burning bush encounter and his three revealing excuses that mirror our own leadership struggles. From church planting to difficult conversations, discover how God's power, presence, and purpose crush fear and instill the courage needed to lead with breakthrough faith. Perfect for pastors ready to move from indecision to action.


Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conference


Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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4 months ago
23 minutes 46 seconds

Breaking Barriers
We’re here to help pastors and churches grow so that they can go. Churches can grow without going, but they can’t go without growing. Do you ever feel like church growth and sending is an uphill battle? You’re not alone, many leaders face common barriers that hinder mission success. At Breaking Barriers, we understand these challenges because we’ve been there. Now, we are on a mission to guide churches and leaders like you with Biblical strategies to help your church grow to go. Join Pastors Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington from Mercy Hill Church in Greensboro, NC.