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Breaking Barriers
Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington
94 episodes
19 hours ago
We’re here to help pastors and churches grow so that they can go. Churches can grow without going, but they can’t go without growing. Do you ever feel like church growth and sending is an uphill battle? You’re not alone, many leaders face common barriers that hinder mission success. At Breaking Barriers, we understand these challenges because we’ve been there. Now, we are on a mission to guide churches and leaders like you with Biblical strategies to help your church grow to go. Join Pastors Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington from Mercy Hill Church in Greensboro, NC.
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We’re here to help pastors and churches grow so that they can go. Churches can grow without going, but they can’t go without growing. Do you ever feel like church growth and sending is an uphill battle? You’re not alone, many leaders face common barriers that hinder mission success. At Breaking Barriers, we understand these challenges because we’ve been there. Now, we are on a mission to guide churches and leaders like you with Biblical strategies to help your church grow to go. Join Pastors Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington from Mercy Hill Church in Greensboro, NC.
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Breaking Barriers
E91 - Debunking Church Growth Myths

The anti-church growth movement is filled with myths that hold churches back from their mission. Can a church grow large and still disciple deeply? Are numeric goals unspiritual? Does multi-site ministry prevent real shepherding? We're debunking these common objections and showing why mission-focused church growth honors both the Great Commission and biblical discipleship. Join us for an honest conversation about what Scripture really teaches about growing and tending the flock.


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3 days ago
31 minutes 40 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E90 - End of Year Giving Plan: Vision Casting, Storytelling & Discipleship Tips for Pastors

Want to crush your end-of-year church giving campaign with proven strategies that grow both your church's mission and your congregation's hearts? In this episode, we walk pastors through a framework for year-end generosity initiatives, covering everything from pre-planning in September to execution through December. Learn why December giving naturally increases and how to strategically leverage this momentum. We discuss the critical "why" behind generosity campaigns—it's about discipleship first, budget second. Get practical insights on packaging your vision, telling compelling stories, setting up remembrance stones of God's faithfulness, and communicating effectively with different groups of people.


Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

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1 week ago
43 minutes 2 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E89 - Corporate Discipleship VS Individual Pathways (2)

****Spotify keeps removing episodes due to the music in the PreRoll Bumper (Even though we have the license to use it), so for now, we're uploading episodes without the Bumper until we can get it resolved.***


Should your church focus on individual discipleship plans or corporate pathways? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, Pastor Bobby and Pastor Andrew tackle a listener's question about why Mercy Hill Church chose a church-wide discipleship pathway over individualized plans. Discover the 5 reasons behind their Acts 2 "flywheel" approach (Gather, Group, Give, Go), why simplicity beats complexity in discipleship, and how to align your church's front-stage and back-stage conversations. Perfect for pastors, church leaders, and ministry teams wrestling with discipleship strategy, church growth, and creating sustainable pathways for spiritual formation.

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2 weeks ago
40 minutes 21 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E89 - Corporate Discipleship VS Individual Pathways

Should your church focus on individual discipleship plans or corporate pathways? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, Pastor Bobby and Pastor Andrew tackle a listener's question about why Mercy Hill Church chose a church-wide discipleship pathway over individualized plans. Discover the 5 reasons behind their Acts 2 "flywheel" approach (Gather, Group, Give, Go), why simplicity beats complexity in discipleship, and how to align your church's front-stage and back-stage conversations. Perfect for pastors, church leaders, and ministry teams wrestling with discipleship strategy, church growth, and creating sustainable pathways for spiritual formation.


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2 weeks ago
40 minutes 36 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E88 - Ben Tugwell | The Weight of Pastoral Ministry (Part 2)

****Spotify keeps removing episodes due to the music in the PreRoll Bumper (Even though we have the license to use it), so for now, we're uploading episodes without the Bumper until we can get it resolved.***


PART 2: What does pastoral ministry really cost? Not just your time—but your emotions, your body, and your soul?

Former lead pastor Ben Tugwell planted and grew Integrity Church for over 15 years. He had coaches, healthy boundaries, took time off, and did "all the right things." Yet six months after transitioning out of vocational ministry, he's still discovering just how much the role affected him.

In this honest conversation, Ben breaks down the "relational tightrope" pastors walk every Sunday—navigating people in crisis, unrepentant sin, disgruntled members, and hundreds of heartbreaking situations that pile up over years. He shares why even healthy pastors carry an unavoidable weight, and how emotional intelligence and self-awareness are critical for long-term ministry effectiveness.


Ben's Coaching Program: ⁠⁠Citizenscoaching.com

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3 weeks ago
30 minutes 8 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E87 - Ben Tugwell | The Weight of Pastoral Ministry (Part 1)

What does pastoral ministry really cost? Not just your time—but your emotions, your body, and your soul?

Former lead pastor Ben Tugwell planted and grew Integrity Church for over 15 years. He had coaches, healthy boundaries, took time off, and did "all the right things." Yet six months after transitioning out of vocational ministry, he's still discovering just how much the role affected him.

In this honest conversation, Ben breaks down the "relational tightrope" pastors walk every Sunday—navigating people in crisis, unrepentant sin, disgruntled members, and hundreds of heartbreaking situations that pile up over years. He shares why even healthy pastors carry an unavoidable weight, and how emotional intelligence and self-awareness are critical for long-term ministry effectiveness.


Ben's Coaching Program: Citizenscoaching.com

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1 month ago
21 minutes 55 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E86 - The Edgy Side of Wise | 4 Key Takeaways

Are you playing it too safe in your church leadership? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we explore the concept of living on the "edgy side of wise"—taking calculated risks that honor God without crossing into foolishness. Discover practical strategies for risk-taking in four critical areas. Learn why preparing the jars before the miracle matters, how to invest in growth when you don't have all the resources, and why stewardship might mean sending rather than just saving.


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1 month ago
36 minutes 17 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E86 - The Edgy Side of Wise | 4 Key Takeaways

Are you playing it too safe in your church leadership? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we explore the concept of living on the "edgy side of wise"—taking calculated risks that honor God without crossing into foolishness. Discover practical strategies for risk-taking in four critical areas. Learn why preparing the jars before the miracle matters, how to invest in growth when you don't have all the resources, and why stewardship might mean sending rather than just saving.


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1 month ago
36 minutes 17 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E85 - The Multisite Playbook - The Why, Where, When, and Who of Multisite Church

The Why, Where, When, and Who of Multisite Church

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1 month ago
27 minutes 43 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E84 - 6 Marks of Non-Growing Churches

Discover the 6 most common reasons churches plateau and stop growing. In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we explore why many faithful, spiritually deep churches remain stuck... from policy paralysis and lack of clear vision to being personality-driven instead of process-driven. Learn practical strategies to overcome growth barriers.


Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conference

Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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1 month ago
33 minutes 5 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E83 - Lessons From a Pastors Wife | Andrew & Anna Hopper

What does it really look like to be a pastor's wife? Not the Pinterest-perfect version—the real, messy, beautiful reality. Anna pulls back the curtain on 20 years of ministry life, from church planting with toddlers to navigating special needs adoption while her husband leads a growing church. She tackles the hard questions: How do you keep your identity when you're known as "the pastor's wife"? What do you do when you can't say yes to everything? How do you find joy when ministry demands feel overwhelming? Discovering freedom in your calling, serving from your actual gifts, and supporting your pastor husband without losing yourself. If you're a pastor's wife feeling stuck, a pastor wanting to set your wife up for success, or a church leader wondering how this all works, this conversation is for you.Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conferenceWebsite: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriersFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriersInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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1 month ago
35 minutes 14 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E82 - How Multi-Site and Church Plants Serve Different Kingdom Purposes (Part 2)

Part 2 of the conversation around church planting vs multisite church: Are multi-site campuses and church plants really the same thing? Pastor Andrew and Pastor Jonathan Yarborough dive deep into the crucial differences between campus planting and church planting strategies. Using the starfish vs spider analogy, they explain the critical differences with a "both, and" mindset, not an "either, or"; and the "magnet effect" that keeps churches from multiplying.


Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conference

Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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2 months ago
29 minutes 37 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E81 - How Multi-Site and Church Plants Serve Different Kingdom Purposes (Part 1)

What's the difference between launching a multi-site campus and planting a church? We explore why we believe multi-site campuses serve as growth strategies while church plants function as multiplication strategies [unSeminary], and why treating them as identical could limit your church's long-term kingdom legacy. We look at the "multiply everything" principle and how it prepares churches for both campus expansion and church planting success. Perfect for pastors, church planters, and ministry leaders navigating growth and multiplication strategies.


  • Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conference
  • Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠
  • Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers
  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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2 months ago
18 minutes 8 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E80 - God's Faithfulness, Our Excuses

What do you do when God calls you to something that scares you? Every church leader faces moments when fear, excuses, and negativity create artificial barriers to growth and ministry. Today, Pastor Andrew looks at Moses' burning bush encounter and his three revealing excuses that mirror our own leadership struggles. From church planting to difficult conversations, discover how God's power, presence, and purpose crush fear and instill the courage needed to lead with breakthrough faith. Perfect for pastors ready to move from indecision to action.


Conference: https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com/conference


Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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2 months ago
23 minutes 46 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E79 - From Growing to Going: Building a Missions Pipeline That Sends (Part 2)

Part 2 | In 2024, Mercy Hill Church became the #1 missionary sending church in the Southern Baptist Convention. This doesn't happen overnight, and it doesn't happen without intentionality. In this episode of Breaking Barriers, Pastor Andrew talks with our Missions Director, Landon about Mercy Hill's 2-year training process that has sent out 212 people (71 international) to unreached people groups. Learn practical strategies for missions mobilization, church planting systems, and how to transition from church growth to global sending. Perfect for pastors, church leaders, and missions committees wanting to build sustainable missionary training programs.



Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers⁠Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers⁠Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers⁠




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2 months ago
30 minutes 46 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E78 - From Growing to Going: How to Build a Missions Pipeline That Sends (Part 1)

In 2024, Mercy Hill Church became the #1 missionary sending church in the Southern Baptist Convention. This doesn't happen overnight, and it doesn't happen without intentionality. In this episode of Breaking Barriers, Pastor Andrew talks with our Missions Director, Landon about Mercy Hill's 2-year training process that has sent out 212 people (71 international) to unreached people groups. Learn practical strategies for missions mobilization, church planting systems, and how to transition from church growth to global sending. Perfect for pastors, church leaders, and missions committees wanting to build sustainable missionary training programs.


  • Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠
  • Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers
  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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3 months ago
25 minutes 59 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E77 - The Summer Season Myth: 4 Ways to Think About the Summer Season

Every church leader hates the "summer slump," but what if summer could actually be your secret weapon for growth? This episode breaks down 4 strategies that flip the script on summer ministry and can turn your slowest season into your most strategic one.

If you're a pastor or on a church leadership team and you're tired of writing off summer as a dead season, this episode will change how you think about ministry planning. Your fall growth might just depend on what you do this summer.


Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

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3 months ago
25 minutes 50 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E76 - How Think Like a 1,000+ Person Church

What separates churches that grow from those that stay stuck? In this episode, we dive into the 5 mental shifts that make all the difference. Here's the reality: only 2% of churches ever hit 1,000 members, but the ones that do aren't just lucky—they think differently. Now, 1,000 people isn't always the goal (and it probably shouldn't be for everyone), but these mental shift help to reframe how we think about growth from any level. We'll walk through the key areas that matter most, if you're pastoring a church of 200-500 and feel stuck, this conversation is for you. It's time to stop thinking "if/then" and start thinking "because/now."


Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

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3 months ago
36 minutes 6 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E75 - Skip Allen | From 300 to 1,200: Multi-Site Strategy Mindset

Pastor Skip Allen joins Jonathan Yarboro to talk about how Hope Community Church went from a small merger to 1,200 weekly attendees. In this Breaking Barriers episode, discover actionable church growth strategies including multi-campus development, going to multiple services, and much more.


Website: ⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers


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3 months ago
24 minutes 39 seconds

Breaking Barriers
E74 - Without This... Your Vision Will Die

Vision without follow-through is just a dream. The execution part of vision is always the hardest, and the execution doesn't happen without courage.

Vision without follow-through is just a dream. The execution part of vision is always the hardest, and the execution doesn't happen without courage.


Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://breakinggrowthbarriers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠

Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/breakinggrowthbarriers⁠

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/breakinggrowthbarriers⁠

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/breakinggrowthbarriers⁠




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4 months ago
27 minutes 52 seconds

Breaking Barriers
We’re here to help pastors and churches grow so that they can go. Churches can grow without going, but they can’t go without growing. Do you ever feel like church growth and sending is an uphill battle? You’re not alone, many leaders face common barriers that hinder mission success. At Breaking Barriers, we understand these challenges because we’ve been there. Now, we are on a mission to guide churches and leaders like you with Biblical strategies to help your church grow to go. Join Pastors Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington from Mercy Hill Church in Greensboro, NC.