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Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
Traci Chernoff
261 episodes
1 day ago
People are at the center of every business--or at least they should be. "Bringing the Human back to Human Resources" is a podcast hosted by Traci Chernoff, a Senior Director of Employee Engagement, who has spent 10 years in critical HR leadership roles. Traci explores the delicate balance between people and business and destigmatizes what it means to be in "Human Resources".
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People are at the center of every business--or at least they should be. "Bringing the Human back to Human Resources" is a podcast hosted by Traci Chernoff, a Senior Director of Employee Engagement, who has spent 10 years in critical HR leadership roles. Traci explores the delicate balance between people and business and destigmatizes what it means to be in "Human Resources".
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Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
258. Policy Pulse: Bra Inspections, NLRB Control, and Your 2026 Compliance Nightmare

This episode unpacks the real danger of a female-dominated profession being policed through male eyes, the seismic shift happening with NLRB independence, and what HR leaders need to prepare for as workplace regulation becomes a political ping-pong ball. Bryan breaks down why the next few years will be anything but predictable for your compliance calendar.


What We Cover

– The Michigan firefighter bra inspection case and why "professionalism" is being weaponized to keep workplaces male-dominated

 – Why this case matters even though it shouldn't exist—and how past court rulings could doom the firefighter's lawsuit

 – The NLRB's loss of independence and what it means when presidents can fire board members at will

– How decades of stable labor policy will now swing with every election cycle 

– The real difference between independent agency oversight and direct presidential control 

– Why rapid policy reversals in employment law will crush compliance predictability 

– Union membership trends: will the NLRB chaos actually drive more unionization or accelerate decline? 

– Bryan's three bold bets for 2026: AI implementation, AI discrimination issues, and te blue state/red state divide 

– The impossibility of creating one handbook that works across incompatible state laws 

– Why HR is the only department in the room protecting the human impact of business decisions


Connect with Bryan here: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanjohndriscoll/⁠

   

Connect with Traci here: ⁠https://linktr.ee/HRTraci

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Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.


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1 day ago
45 minutes 24 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
257. The Resume Red Flag Hiring Teams Can Spot a Mile Away

This week, Traci sits down for a solo catch-up to address the elephant in the room: the influx of obviously AI-generated resumes and job applications flooding inboxes. Plus, this is our last episode of 2025, so you won't want to miss this episode!


What starts as a cautionary tale about resume fraud becomes a deeper conversation about reputation, confidence, and why the "spray and pray" approach to your career is actually costing you more than it saves.


Whether you're tempted to let AI write your resume from scratch, use automated job application services, or lean on generative tools during interviews, this episode challenges the all-or-nothing thinking that's driving so many job seekers to compromise their credibility before they even get in the door.


What We Cover:

– The telltale signs of AI-generated resumes (generic language, zero personality, missing data points)

– Why perfect keyword matching actually hurts your chances despite what you think about ATS systems

– The reputation damage that never really goes away in smaller industries

– The interview nightmare scenario: claiming experience you don't actually have

– How one hiring manager caught a candidate using AI mid-interview (spoiler: the camera angle was a dead giveaway)

– Why automated job application services are just spray-and-pray without the actual effectiveness

– The difference between using AI as a prep tool versus letting AI replace your thinking entirely

– How to leverage AI ethically—workbook prep, question practice, resume critique—without faking your way through applications

– The real thing that lands jobs: being prepared, being specific, being YOU

– The competitive job market pressure that's driving candidates to abandon authenticity


Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


For resume support, interview prep, or career coaching, reach out: https://hrtraci.com/career-services 


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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3 weeks ago
28 minutes 28 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
256. It's Not That Deep: A Leadership Guide to Breaking the Doom Loop feat. Emily Erstad

Join Traci and Emily Erstad, author of It's Not That Deep, regional operations strategist, executive director in hospice, and soulful leadership coach, as they explore how to break free from the mental loops that keep us stuck—and still lead with heart.


Spoiler alert: Being a deep thinker and deep feeler is a gift, but staying there indefinitely is the problem.


Emily unpacks why so many high-achieving leaders and HR professionals get trapped in what she calls the "doom loop"—where perfectionism, overthinking, and taking ourselves too seriously becomes the very thing that blocks our progress. You'll discover how to leverage emotional intelligence without letting it become an excuse for avoiding accountability, and why boundaries and vulnerability aren't opposites—they're both essential to building trust.


What We Cover:

– The doom loop that keeps deep thinkers trapped in unproductive cycles

– Perfectionism as a self-diminisher and team drainer

– Trauma dumping versus authentically sharing hard things

– Why "triggered" has replaced actual disagreement and conversation

– Setting boundaries without sacrificing your authenticity or kindness

– The difference between over-empathy and strategic compassion in leadership

– Culture is about knowing your team's limits, not pizza parties

– Using vulnerability strategically to build trust and transparency

– The next frontier in leadership: moving beyond "emotions are valid" to action

– Observation and reflection as the antidote to reactive leadership


Key Quote: "You are important, but you're not that important. You're adding a lot of responsibility to yourself that's so unnecessary, and it's just going to drive you nuts. And you being driven nuts is not productive." – Emily Erstad


Connect with Emily Erstad:

Website: https://eepublications.com 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsnotthatdeep_author/

LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-erstad-m-a-ccc-slp-381346135/

Book: It's Not That Deep  


Connect with Traci here:

https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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4 weeks ago
36 minutes 43 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
255. Command and Control Is Exhausting Everyone feat. Dr. Greg Giuliano

This week, Traci sits down with Dr. Greg Giuliano, founder of GA Ultra Leadership and executive coach to senior leaders worldwide. For nearly 30 years, Greg has been helping leaders understand that the way they lead directly impacts whether people show up engaged or just show up.


Spoiler alert: That micromanaging leader you're frustrated with? Their anxiety is driving every decision—and you're probably doing the exact same thing to your team without realizing it.


Greg unpacks why leaders accidentally slip into command and control despite genuinely wanting to empower their teams, and shares the coaching framework that transforms how managers lead. He reveals the drama triangle that plays out in every workplace, explains why anxiety masquerades as micromanagement, and gives leaders the tools to shift from managing and telling to coaching and empowering.


What We Cover:

– The drama triangle that runs every workplace

– Why micromanagement is anxiety wearing a business suit

– The mama bird trap leaders fall into

– Coaching versus telling and why one actually works

– How to create your own team culture inside a broken system

– The question that reveals what kind of leader you really want to be

– Why the post-pandemic workforce won't tolerate command and control

– How to actually make the shift from managing to coaching

– The 10-minute framework that proves coaching isn't complicated

– When you stop coaching and start managing instead


Key Quote:

"My job is to empower these people and the best way to empower people is to coach them." – Dr. Greg Giuliano


Connect with Dr. Greg Giuliano:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/greg-giuliano 

Podcast: Ultra Leadership (new video every week) 

Website: ultraleadership.com

Books: Coaching for a Change, The Next Normal, Ultra Leadership, The Hero's Journey


Connect with Traci here:

https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.

Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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1 month ago
44 minutes 58 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
254. Turning Talent into Advocates: Why Marketing Should Own Your Recruiting feat. Renaud Delaquis

This week, Traci connects with Renaud Delaquis, Head of Product Marketing at Coastline Academy, the nation's largest driving school scaling across 500+ cities.


Spoiler alert: What if your biggest hiring problem was actually a revenue problem in disguise?


When Renaud noticed a tiny dip in quality metrics—just 1%—he could've ignored it. Instead, he discovered something most marketing leaders never see: the direct correlation between who you hire and what your customers experience. That realization led him to partner with recruiting and completely rethink how Coastline attracts, screens, and retains driving instructors.


What We Cover:

– The moment a marketing leader realized recruiting was his problem too

– Why a 1% quality drop led to an entirely new hiring system

– How to find people who don't know they want the job

– The personality trait that actually predicts success (and it's not what you think)

– Turning your best employees into organic brand ambassadors

– Making the business case to leadership with numbers that stick

– Why happy employees are literally your greatest product


Key Quote:

"The best product that you have are happy employees. When you invest in your best product, your employees, all of your other products will totally start to rise to the occasion." – Renaud Delaquis


Connect with Renaud Delaquis:

Website: https://www.instagram.com/coastlineacademy

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coastlineacademyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/coastlineacademyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPruykTxAWpwh8i1GK-U1kA

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coastline.academyRenaud on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/renaud-delaquis/


Connect with Traci here:

https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.

Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.


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1 month ago
37 minutes 35 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
253. Policy Pulse: New Leadership, Rollbacks, and What HR Needs to Know

This month's Policy Pulse episode with Traci and co-host Bryan Driscoll is packed with the compliance updates every HR leader needs heading into 2026. With new EEOC leadership officially in place, federal enforcement is shifting, state protections are becoming more critical, and workplace culture decisions are getting harder to navigate.


Spoiler alert: You're about to feel major whiplash as protections from the past four years (DEI initiatives, pregnancy accommodations, gender identity policies, and more) face rollbacks. But state laws might be your lifeline.


This conversation covers everything from DEI audits and the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act to religious and gender identity protections, reverse discrimination claims, and a cultural reality check about office returns.


You'll hear why one company's Halloween costume mishap revealed their broken culture, what managers actually need to know about anti-harassment training, and the single question every HR leader should ask before mandating people back to the office.


Plus, Bryan walks through the most pressing questions he's getting from clients right now about navigating these changes without losing employee trust.


What We Cover

  • New EEOC leadership and the anticipated rollbacks to DEI programs, pregnant workers protections, and gender identity policies

  • Why auditing your DEI initiatives now isn't optional (it's survival)

  • The Pregnant Workers Fairness Act: expanded protections facing the axe and what state laws might save you

  • Religious and gender identity conflicts: expect stronger protections for religious objections and narrower interpretations of gender identity

  • When federal law disappears, state law is your safety net and some states have serious teeth

  • The culture-killing move: mandating office returns without a legitimate business reason

  • How convincing employees signals distrust and guarantees compliance theater instead of real engagement

  • Why one Halloween costume revealed everything wrong with a company's culture

  • Anti-harassment training for managers vs. company-wide training: why you need both and why most companies miss this

  • The real question HR leaders should ask before sending that RTO mandate: would I come in for that reason?


Key Quote

"Your response or lack of response when someone crosses a line in your organization, that is your culture." - Bryan Driscoll


Connect with Bryan here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanjohndriscoll/ 

Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.

Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.


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1 month ago
43 minutes 40 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
252. From At-Will to Employee-First: Navigating Canadian Hiring Successfully feat. Laura Tolhoek

This week, Traci welcomes Laura Tolhoek, founder and principal consultant at Essential HR, where she leads a team delivering clear, results-focused solutions to businesses facing HR challenges across Canada. With her CHRL designation and over 20 years of experience, Laura specializes in helping companies navigate the complex world of Canadian employment law.


Laura has built her career guiding managers through high-volume decision-making in fast-paced restaurant, food service, and retail environments.


Her expertise becomes critical when US-based companies attempt to expand north of the border using American HR practices—a mistake that can cost tens of thousands in severance.


Spoiler alert: That US employment contract you're using in Canada is probably null and void—and that might actually work in the employee's favor.


Laura breaks down why expanding into Canada makes strategic sense—from accessing highly educated workers at a 30-35% exchange rate discount to tapping salary ranges significantly lower than US metropolitan areas.

You'll also hear the critical legal pitfalls that can turn a cost-saving hire into an expensive nightmare, including the "dependent contractor" classification that's caught countless US companies off guard.


What We Cover:

– The Target Canada lesson – Why understanding operational and cultural differences before expansion matters, even for America's most successful retailers

– Why at-will employment doesn't exist in Canada – Termination without a strong contract can cost months of severance instead of weeks

– The contract clause that voids everything – One mention of drug testing invalidates your entire employment agreement

– Dependent contractors aren't subcontractors – If someone gets 75%+ of their income from you, courts may deem them an employee with back taxes, vacation, and overtime owed

– How to find strong mid-level managers for $60-80K CAD – The salary arbitrage that builds loyalty while expanding your talent pool

– Quebec's French-first requirement – Why Montreal expansion means understanding distinct cultural approaches to business

– The 18-month parental leave structure – How progressive family leave policies help balance workforce discrimination concerns

– Why employees always get the benefit of the doubt – Understanding Canada's employee-first legal system where courts consistently side with workers


Key Quote: "You can't get a subcontractor relationship clean in Canada. All is good till it's not. If your subcontractor gets more than 75% of their income from you, they're called a dependent contractor—and then the company says, 'You decide how much you think you owe them and we'll tell you if we think you're right.'" – Laura Tolhoek


Connect with Laura Tolhoek:

Website: essentialhr.ca

Instagram: @essentialhr.ca

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-tolhoek/ | https://www.linkedin.com/company/essential-hr-canada/


Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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1 month ago
36 minutes 2 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
252. How Smart Employers Are Protecting Half Their Workforce feat. Cigna’s Wendy Sherry

This week, Traci welcomed Wendy Sherry, Chief Executive Officer for Global Health Benefits within International Health at Cigna Healthcare, overseeing healthcare delivery to more than 3,700 clients in over 250 countries.


With 30 years at Cigna spanning multiple leadership roles, Wendy is a strong advocate for inclusion and the advancement of women in leadership. She also serves as an advisor to Hello Heart and supports healthcare equity angels.


Spoiler alert: 50% of millennial women are experiencing perimenopause symptoms right now, and by 2030, three-quarters of the global workforce will be millennials or Gen Z—meaning this isn't a women's issue, it's a business imperative.


What We Cover

  • The inclusive leadership philosophy
  • What perimenopause actually does to your body
  • 50% of millennial women have perimenopause symptoms
  • Which states mandate menopause workplace protections
  • Why this is a business imperative, not a nice-to-have
  • The hidden cost of perimenopause stigma
  • How Cigna connects employees to menopause specialists
  • The talent war you're losing without these benefits
  • What to ask your benefits provider tomorrow

Key Quote

"If all the good ideas come from me, we are in trouble. You need to have a team that in many ways is smarter than you in certain areas, because it's all about perspective." – Wendy Sherry


Connect with Wendy Sherry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendy-sherry/ 

Website: https://www.cignaglobal.com/employers/na 


Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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2 months ago
34 minutes 22 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
251. Policy Pulse: Emergency Pay, Male-Only Hiring Fails, and California Cracks Down

Join Traci and attorney Bryan Driscoll for this month's Policy Pulse episode covering the latest workplace regulations that demand your attention. Together they break down the DOL's new emergency pay ruling, a shocking discrimination lawsuit, California's pay transparency expansion, and Supreme Court cases that could reshape federal workplace regulation.


Spoiler alert: Emergency pay just became part of your overtime calculation headache, and California is done with fake pay ranges.


This episode unpacks how the Department of Labor now requires emergency and hazard pay to be included when calculating overtime rates, making your payroll significantly more complex. 


You'll also hear about the EEOC's lawsuit against a staffing firm that honored male-only hiring requests and why this puts all recruiters on notice. Discover how California's strengthened pay transparency law demands "good faith" ranges that include total comp, not theoretical maximums, plus why the Supreme Court's upcoming term could create wild policy swings for the NLRB and EEOC.


What We Cover:

– DOL's new emergency pay overtime requirement

– The staffing firm's male-only hiring lawsuit

– California's "good faith" pay range mandate

– Why vendor compliance doesn't absolve employer liability

– Supreme Court cases threatening independent agencies

– The ERISA fiduciary risks HR overlooks


Key Quote: "California now says you can't put in a job description what you could pay an employee. You have to put in the job posting what you will pay the employee." – Bryan Driscoll


Connect with Bryan Driscoll: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanjohndriscoll/ 


Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci 


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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2 months ago
38 minutes 34 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
250. Pregnancy and Infant Loss: What HR Leaders Need to Know

Content Warning: This episode discusses pregnancy loss, miscarriage, stillbirth, and infant death. Please take care of yourself if these topics are sensitive or triggering for you.


This week, Traci tackles a topic that touches one in four pregnancies but remains largely invisible in workplace conversations: pregnancy and infant loss.


A longtime listener and HR professional reached out to share her powerful story of loss and resilience after losing her newborn son earlier this year. Through her experience, she’s seen how unprepared many workplaces are to support grieving parents—and she’s on a mission to change that. 


Her message is a call to action for HR leaders to bring more compassion, awareness, and humanity to how we support employees through unimaginable loss.


Spoiler alert: There's no federal requirement for bereavement leave in private employment, leaving a massive gap in support for grieving parents.


Traci reveals the three-stage support framework that actually works, explores state laws that lead the way, and shares why explicitly stating "reproductive loss" in policies makes all the difference.


What We Cover:

– The one-in-four reality: Why this is far more common than most realize and how that should reshape support

– The three-stage framework: Supporting employees before return, during transition, and once they're back

– Language that harms versus heals: What to avoid saying and what actually helps

– State laws leading the way: How California, Illinois, Oregon, and Washington provide reproductive loss leave

– Making loss explicit: Why stating "reproductive loss" in policies normalizes asking for support


Have thoughts on how your organization supports employees through loss, or want to share what's working in your workplace? Drop a comment on Spotify or YouTube and let us know. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe!


Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Griffin Cares Foundation- https://griffincaresfoundation.org/  - Provide support across the United States for those have experienced pregnancy or infant loss through events and virtual support groups.

Chasing Rainbows- https://chasingtherainbows.org/ - Provide online virtual support groups (6 days a week) to families that have experienced pregnancy and infant loss, infertility, and support for pregnancy following loss.

Sad Dads Club- https://saddadsclub.org/ - Community for loss dads. Provided the much-needed support to bereaved fathers, as they typically are less likely to reach out in traditional ways. They host online support groups, in person events and more.

Adalyn Rose Foundation- https://adalynrose.org/ - provide training for healthcare workers, remembrance carts, support groups, couples workshops , and community events raise awareness for pregnancy and infant loss.


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.

Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.


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2 months ago
38 minutes 36 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
249. Future-Proofing Your Career: The Power of Upskilling & Continuous Learning feat. Tan Moorthy

This week, Traci sits down with Tan Moorthy, CEO of Revature and accomplished business leader with over three decades of experience in the global IT services industry.


After 23 years with Infosys—where he served as Executive Vice President across multiple functions including Head of Delivery Operations for US, Canada, and LATAM, Group Head of HR, and Global Head of Education—Tan now focuses on bridging the talent gap through workforce transformation. He's also a champion of sustainable development, having led UN work groups defining corporate metrics for Sustainable Development Goals.


Spoiler alert: That knowledge you're protecting isn't as proprietary as you think—and hoarding it might be the very thing keeping you from growing.


Tan reveals why learning at the speed of change is the only way to stay relevant, how upskilling existing employees delivers faster ROI than external hiring, and the three-pillar framework (education, engagement, exposure) that builds true competence. Plus, he shares the career-defining moment when a failed proposal taught him that content without communication means lost opportunities.


What We Cover:

  • The proposal that changed everything – How losing a client deal due to poor communication skills sparked Tan's transformation into a lifelong learner and eventually led him to share a stage with Steve Ballmer

  • Why comfort zones are career killers – The counterintuitive move from a successful business role into corporate HR that everyone warned against, and why it opened doors Tan never imagined

  • The three pillars of competence – Breaking down how knowledge, skills, and attitude combine through education, engagement, and exposure to create lasting workforce transformation

  • Learning at the speed of change – Why continuous learning isn't about getting ahead anymore—it's about staying in the same place you are now

  • The upskilling advantage over external hiring – How investing in people who already know your systems, culture, and ecosystem delivers immediate productivity versus the ramp-up time new hires require

  • Why knowledge hoarding backfires – The fundamental truth that if you don't share what you know, someone else will—and why giving more means getting more in return

  • Mentorship as a two-way street – How working with Gen Z employees (or any generation different from yours) creates peer-to-peer learning that benefits both sides equally

  • The innovation power of different perspectives – Why surrounding yourself with people who think like you guarantees stagnation, and how diverse viewpoints spark breakthrough ideas

  • Building elastic teams that bend without breaking – How creating learning ecosystems helps organizations adapt through pandemics, economic shifts, elections, and technological disruption


Key Quote: "You've got to learn at the speed of change for you to stay in the same place that you are, let alone to run." – Tan Moorthy


Connect with Tan Moorthy: 

LinkedIn: Tan Moorthy 

Company: Revature


Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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2 months ago
28 minutes 12 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
248. The Motherhood Penalty: From Negativity Bias to Strengths feat. Kelly McGinnis

This week, Traci welcomes Kelly McGinnis, certified Gottman educator, emotion coach, and CEO of Incredible Family—an organization committed to unleashing potential in working parents through developing strengths.


With over 20 years of experience educating and empowering families, Kelly shares her own journey through the abrupt transition to motherhood with three daughters and how it ignited her passion for helping working parents thrive without choosing between career and family.


Spoiler alert: The odds are stacked against working parents—but there's a science-backed way to flip the script.


Kelly reveals why our brains are hardwired for negativity, the shocking happiness curve research that shows when life satisfaction hits rock bottom, and the one simple strategy organizations can implement that creates ripple effects across engagement, productivity, and retention.


Plus, she shares a powerful story about how unlocking one mom's hidden strength not only kept a valuable employee from leaving but sparked an entirely new mentorship program.


What We Cover:

  • The "motherhood penalty" and why becoming a parent happens at the worst possible career moment

  • Why happiness levels plummet when we become working parents (and what causes that dip)

  • How to break the negativity cycle by shifting to a strengths-based philosophy

  • The dual reality principle: Why two contradictory things can be true at once

  • Why working parents make exceptional leaders (hint: parenting and leadership run parallel)

  • The research-backed reason community is the #1 way to support working parents

  • How to navigate the return-to-work transition and view parenthood as a series of transitions

  • The "pebble in the pond" impact: How small shifts create massive organizational change


Key Quote: "Culture will emerge 'by design or default,' and organizations end up paying the price either way. You can invest intentionally upfront or deal with costly damage control later." – Kelly McGinnis


FREE GIFT: Email Kelly at kelly@incrediblefamily.com and mention this podcast to receive a free code for the parent strengths assessment!


Connect with Kelly:

Email: kelly@incrediblefamily.com 

LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-mcginnis-ifi 

Website: incrediblefamily.com  


Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci 


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.


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3 months ago
31 minutes 38 seconds

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
247. From Counter Mindsets to Success: Why Mindset Is Over Everything feat. Scott Shickler

This week, Traci sits down with Scott Shickler, one of the world's leading experts on mindset-based empowerment and CEO of Seven Mindsets.


Scott has interviewed billionaires, Olympic athletes, and celebrities (including an unforgettable three-hour dinner with Oprah Winfrey) to uncover what truly drives success.


Spoiler alert: It's not talent, luck, or connections. It's mindset.


Scott reveals the seven specific mindsets that separate high achievers from everyone else, why our brains come "factory-loaded" with limitation software, and how even the most successful people battle 30,000-50,000 automatic negative thoughts daily.


Plus, he shares his vision for transforming HR from "Human Resources" to "Human Success."


What We Cover:

  • Why Oprah says mindset is "over everything" (even with all her resources and opportunities)

  • Richard Branson's surprising regrets and why he'd "dream bigger" despite owning 400 companies

  • The "one inch higher" challenge that reveals how we limit our own potential

  • How to identify and flip your "ANTs" (Automatic Negative Thoughts)

  • Why Scott returned as CEO after his company's culture shifted away from mindset-based practices

  • The revolutionary MQ (Mindset Quotient) that measures how your mindsets compare to world-class achievers


Key Quote: "Your mindsets matter. They determine the quality of your life at home, at school, and in the workplace." – Scott Schickler


FREE GIFT: Take Scott's MQ assessment and access your personal AI mindset coach at meetmq.com (use code: HUMAN)


Connect with Scott here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-shickler-6b5575b0/

Website: sevenmindsets.com

Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.


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3 months ago
39 minutes

Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
245. Policy Pulse: Hyperlocal HR Compliance and What to Know about Free Speech feat Bryan Driscoll

In this month's Policy Pulse episode, Traci and Bryan explore the increasingly complex landscape of HR compliance across U.S. states and cities. With federal deregulation on one side and stricter state-level laws on the other, HR professionals are feeling the squeeze.


They discuss how employers can stay compliant with an evolving "patchwork" of laws—from pay transparency and AI in hiring to hyperlocal handbook requirements.


Plus, they tackle the ever-relevant topic of free speech in the workplace: what you can say, what you should say, and what might get you fired.


This episode is essential listening for any HR leader navigating multi-state operations, remote workforces, and the realities of a lean HR team.


What We Cover:

  • How state-specific laws are reshaping HR practices
  • When to use addendums vs. separate employee handbooks
  • The compliance pitfalls of national job postings
  • What "free speech" really means at work (hint: it’s not what you think)
  • Why documentation is everything—and when it's better not to write things down


Key Quote:

“Say it, forget it. Write it, regret it.” — Traci (quoting Dorinda Medley, a RHONY legend)


Got a question for Bryan & Traci for an upcoming episode? Email Traci at contact@hrtraci.com

  • Need help with handbook updates? Visit hrtraci.com


    Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraciDisclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.

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    3 months ago
    32 minutes 40 seconds

    Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
    245. Supporting Employees Through Mental Health Struggles feat. Matthew Megson

    In this deeply moving and eye-opening episode, Traci sits down with Matthew Megson, an HR professional and mental health advocate, to discuss how HR leaders can better support employees navigating mental health challenges. 


    With over 21 years in the field and personal experience living with bipolar disorder, Matthew brings a unique dual perspective, both as someone who has created accommodations and as someone who has needed them.


    Together, Traci and Matthew explore the critical need for empathy, the dangers of stigma, and practical strategies for handling mental health disclosures in the workplace. 


    This conversation touches on suicide prevention, legal considerations, and how to balance organizational needs with human needs, making it a must-listen for anyone in people leadership.


    Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussions about mental health, suicide prevention, and personal struggles. Please take care while listening.


    If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 for free, confidential support anytime.


    Connect with Matthew Megson here:

    Website: Accommodation Analyzed

    LinkedIn: Matthew Megson on LinkedIn


    Connect with Traci:

    ⁠https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


    Chapters:⁠

    00:00 - Intro & Episode Overview

    01:45 - Meet Matthew Megson

    03:00 - Personal Story: Bipolar Diagnosis & Disclosures

    08:30 - Where HR Often Gets It Wrong

    14:00 - The Role of Empathy in HR

    20:00 - Supporting Employees in Remote Environments

    26:00 - What Employees Should Know Before Disclosing

    31:00 - Building Better Accommodation Processes

    33:00 - Where to Learn More from Matthew

    If you found our discussion insightful, we'd like you to take a moment to rate our podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and reach more listeners who are passionate about these topics. You can also leave a review and tell us what you loved or what you'd like to hear more of—we're all ears!

    Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe!

    Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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    3 months ago
    36 minutes 9 seconds

    Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
    244. Empathy Without Drowning:Managing Burnout & Emotional Overload in HR feat. Lindsey Carnick

    This week on Bringing the Human Back to Human Resources, we’re talking about what it really means to be the “shield” in HR, and how to protect yourself from burnout while doing it.


    Traci is joined by Lindsey Carnick, psychotherapist and founder of Onward Psychological Services, to unpack the emotional weight of HR, especially when you’re stuck between the needs of your company and the needs of your people.


    With years of experience supporting high-stress professionals, Lindsey brings clarity, compassion, and a few unforgettable analogies (hello, cereal and climate!) to help HR leaders and people managers navigate stress without drowning in it.


    Whether you’re rethinking your boundaries, looking for coping strategies, or wondering why work suddenly feels heavier than it should. This conversation will help you take a deep breath and start where you are.


    What You’ll Learn:


    • Why HR professionals often act as emotional “shields” in the workplace
    • The difference between empathy and sympathy (and why it matters)
    • How to support others without absorbing their emotions
    • When it's time to leave a role or organization, and how to know if it’s a “weather” or “climate” issue
    • Why alignment between your personal values and your company’s values is non-negotiable


    Connect with Lindsey Carnick here:

    Website: onwardpsychservices.com

    Instagram: @OnwardPsychServices 

    LinkedIn: Lindsey Carnick 


    Connect with Traci here:

    https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


    Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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    4 months ago
    44 minutes 26 seconds

    Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
    243. Cheer Leadership: Energizing Workplaces with Positivity and Purpose feat: Stefanie Adams

    This week on Bringing the Human Back to Human Resources, we're shaking things up... literally.


    Traci is joined by Stefanie Adams, keynote speaker, author of Cheer Leadership, and Chief Empowerment Officer, to talk about how leaders can bring energy, trust, and humanity back into the workplace.


    With 20+ years of leadership experience and a background in cheerleading, Stefanie shares her powerful "Cheer Leadership" framework that challenges outdated ideas about team building.


    Learn why connection, care, challenge, celebration, and inspiration are the five ingredients every leader needs—and how you can start applying them today.


    Whether you're leading hybrid teams, managing burnout, or just trying to bring some joy back into your workday, this conversation will leave you inspired and equipped.


    What You’ll Learn:

    • Why leaders need to stop throwing people into “team stunts” without trust

    • How to change your team’s energy—especially on tough days

    • The power of creating psychological safety and celebrating small wins

    • How fun and productivity can (and should) coexist

    • Why modeling positive behavior gives others permission to do the same

    Connect with Stefanie Adams here:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniezadams/ Instagram: @corporatecheerleader

    Find Stehanie's Book Here: Cheer Leadership


    ⁠Connect with Traci here: ⁠https://linktr.ee/HRTraci


    Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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    4 months ago
    36 minutes 51 seconds

    Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
    242. Policy Pulse: Politics, Paperwork & Protections – August HR News Roundup

    Go to ⁠https://cozyearth.com⁠ and use code HUMANHR for 40% off their best-selling sheets, pajamas, towels, and more. And if you get a post-purchase survey? Let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here.

    In this episode of the Bringing the Human Back to Human Resources podcast, Traci Chernoff and Bryan Driscoll return for this month’s Policy Pulse segment to cover five timely HR developments.

    They kick things off by dissecting the political fallout over the July 2025 jobs report and the potential implications of altering or eliminating the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ monthly release. 

    Then, they dive into Texas’s new law mandating binary gender classification and its compliance burden on multi-state employers, followed by a deep look into Colorado’s strict new AI law and the risks it presents for hiring and automation tools. 

    The conversation wraps with Rhode Island’s new menopause discrimination protections and Illinois’s “leave for any reason” law—both pushing the envelope on employee support policies.

    Chapters 00:00 Welcome to August’s Policy Pulse 01:10 Controversy Over the July Jobs Report 06:49 Texas Mandates Binary Gender Classifications 14:50 Colorado’s Landmark AI Legislation & Compliance Risks 24:00 Rhode Island Protects Menopausal Employees 28:15 Illinois's Leave-for-Any-Reason Law 30:50 PTO, Legal Loopholes & Employer Challenges 32:00 Final Thoughts & What to Watch in September

    Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Plus, leave a comment if you're catching this episode on Spotify or YouTube.

    We hope you enjoyed this month’s Policy Pulse episode. If you found our discussion insightful, we'd like you to take a moment to rate our podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and reach more listeners who are passionate about these topics. You can also leave a review and tell us what you loved or what you'd like to hear more of — we're all ears!

    Connect with Traci here: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/HRTraci⁠⁠

    Connect with Bryan: Website: ⁠https://bryanjdriscoll.com/ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanjohndriscoll/⁠

    Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.

    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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    4 months ago
    32 minutes 26 seconds

    Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
    241. Reimagining the Office: Human-Centered Design Strategies Feat. Sarah Davis

    In this conversation, Sarah Davis, Workplace Strategy Lead at HED,  discusses the importance of human-centered workplace design and its impact on employee well-being and organizational culture. 

    She emphasizes how physical office environments should align with company values and support different work behaviors. The discussion highlights the need for gathering diverse employee perspectives when designing workspaces and the strategic role of the office in fostering collaboration, creativity, and social connection. 

    Sarah advocates for moving beyond traditional office layouts to create intentional spaces that enhance rather than hinder employee performance and satisfaction.

    Connect with Sarah Davis here:

    https://hed.co/

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/hed-architecture-engineering/

    Connect with Traci here: https://linktr.ee/HRTraci

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Human-Centered Workplace Design

    04:30 Aligning Physical Space with Company Culture

    11:34 Defining the Purpose of the Office

    18:11 Moving Beyond Productivity to Experience-Focused Design

    25:45 From Paper Decisions to Real Employee Experience

    29:53 The Impact of Good Design on Employee Performance

    33:23 Resources and How to Connect

    If you found our discussion insightful, we'd like you to take a moment to rate our podcast.

    Your feedback helps us grow and reach more listeners who are passionate about these topics.

    You can also leave a review and tell us what you loved or what you'd like to hear more of - we're all ears!

    Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.

    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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    4 months ago
    37 minutes 8 seconds

    Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
    240. Aligning Culture and Performance: A Blueprint for Success feat. Dr. Rob Lion, PhD

    In this conversation, Dr. Rob Lion discusses the importance of a human-centric approach to leadership and organizational development. He emphasizes the need for evidence-based decision-making and the balance between culture and performance. The discussion highlights the significance of understanding context in organizational strategies and the role of employee experience in driving performance. Dr. Lion advocates for a proactive approach to culture as a strategic advantage and provides practical steps for organizations to improve their cultural framework.

    Connect with Dr. Rob Lion, PhD here:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertlion/

    https://blackriverpm.com/
    https://blackriverpm.com/rob

    Connect with Traci here: ⁠https://linktr.ee/HRTraci⁠

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Human-Centric Leadership

    03:11 The Journey of Continuous Improvement

    06:08 The Importance of Evidence-Based Decision Making

    09:03 Balancing Culture and Performance

    12:01 The Role of Context in Organizational Success

    14:53 The Impact of Culture on Employee Performance

    18:03 Strategies for Building a Strong Culture

    20:59 The Challenge of Changing Mindsets

    24:10 The Spectrum of Organizational Beliefs

    26:51 Practical Steps for Cultural Transformation

    30:05 Conclusion and Resources


    If you found our discussion insightful, we'd like you to take a moment to rate our podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and reach more listeners who are passionate about these topics. You can also leave a review and tell us what you loved or what you'd like to hear more of - we're all ears!


    Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe!


    Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.




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    4 months ago
    38 minutes 28 seconds

    Bringing the Human back to Human Resources
    People are at the center of every business--or at least they should be. "Bringing the Human back to Human Resources" is a podcast hosted by Traci Chernoff, a Senior Director of Employee Engagement, who has spent 10 years in critical HR leadership roles. Traci explores the delicate balance between people and business and destigmatizes what it means to be in "Human Resources".